police filming the crowd, dogs keeping order...wtf

Brigantes have heaped shame on a once great family crowd of supporters...isnt safe to take the kids anymore......what police actions will they attract next?

tear gas? Mace sprays? baton charges?
im staying home until all the brigantes have been rounded up and shipped to Siberia

BRIGANTES OUT OUT OUT

now lock this drivel before we get another 50 pages of brigante bashing

Do we have to have a thread similar to this after every away game?
The atmosphere was pretty drab yesterday but that will be down to the performance.
The only thing I will say on the matter of the Brigantes is who was the tool who had the full face scalf on? I'm sure he thought he was an Italian football hooligan and are the type of people who you should want to keep away from the group, its rugby league not foreign football ffs.

Its "St Pete" from the Stains board, closet Wigan fan...

After reading some of the comments on this thread - ie:

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Why happened to them today?
Could hear a pin drop at times.

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again,the support at times was good and is appreciated by all at the club, keep it up.

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I think the Brigantes performances so far this season (albeit still good) are not as impressive as the start of last season. I don't know if something is different/less people are involved.



I think I must be missing something here. Why is the atmosphere/vocal support of the team the sole responsibility of the Brigantes?

At the game yesterday they tried their damndest to get people singing and backing the lads, yet most people just sat there & didn't join in.

Then they have to provide answers on here as to why they didn't generate an atmosphere for us all to enjoy.

If all the people who 'think they (the Brigantes) are doing a good job' and urge them to 'keep it up' etc. actually joined in - or God forbid actually started a song themselves, we would have the loudest support in the league. Where are all those people who have bought Brigantes merchandise and/or have said that they back what they are trying to do (why not say 'we' - we are all Wigan fans wanting the same thing) when the team need vocal backing?
Surely everyone needs to play a part in creating as loud a vocal support as possible. Whether you're 'in' the Brigantes or not (as far as I'm aware there isn't any form to fill in or past employer references to provide - there's no membership card - it's just a name used to attempt to give focus for a more vocal support by ALL Wigan fans - it's all inclusive), then for FS join in!

There have been a number of occasions, especially at the DW, when you overhear some people saying that " the atmosphere is poor today", yet when a song starts up - there is silence from them, as though it is up to someone else to provide them with the atmosphere they want.

Singing:
1. Isn't a crime.
2. Isn't something to be embarrassed about.
3. Gives a great sense of togetherness/community spirit.
4. Is good for the soul!
5. Feels bl***dy great when everyone joins in.


To ALL Wigan fans:
1. Surely the task of a supporter is to support
2. Learn the words.
3. Sing.
4. Don't leave it to someone else to provide an atmosphere.

Possibly the best post I have ever had the pleasure of reading on rlfans. 100% bang on the money!!

Couldn't be more true that.

Superb post

I tip my hat to you sir. That was fantastic.

Well, first things first. I am a Wigan fan, and have been a season ticket holder for 20 years, and I don't need anyone to represent me, give me a sense of belonging, etc, etc,etc.

Even though you state that it is not the sole responsibility of the "Brigantes", whatever they may be, to create an atmosphere, you do intimate that this group are the only ones actually creating any atmosphere that is present.

Any chance you can tell me who has been creating atmosphere at Wigan games for the last 30 years?

By the way, if the Brigantes are the gang of 12 year olds with a drum in the South Stand, please tell them to shut up, as they aren't helping.

Ta.

Quote ="Jack Kerley"Well, first things first. I am a Wigan fan, and have been a season ticket holder for 20 years, and I don't need anyone to represent me, give me a sense of belonging, etc, etc,etc. Even though you state that it is not the sole responsibility of the "Brigantes", whatever they may be, to create an atmosphere, you do intimate that this group are the only ones actually creating any atmosphere that is present. Any chance you can tell me who has been creating atmosphere at Wigan games for the last 30 years? By the way, if the Brigantes are the gang of 12 year olds with a drum in the South Stand, please tell them to shut up, as they aren't helping. Ta.'" Jack where have you been hiding for the past two years. Remember Riddell? You do seem to have problem with the drums and the singers search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&author_id=41289

Quote ="Jack Kerley"Well, first things first. I am a Wigan fan, and have been a season ticket holder for 20 years, and I don't need anyone to represent me, give me a sense of belonging, etc, etc,etc. Even though you state that it is not the sole responsibility of the "Brigantes", whatever they may be, to create an atmosphere, you do intimate that this group are the only ones actually creating any atmosphere that is present. Any chance you can tell me who has been creating atmosphere at Wigan games for the last 30 years? By the way, if the Brigantes are the gang of 12 year olds with a drum in the South Stand, please tell them to shut up, as they aren't helping. Ta.'" Jack where have you been hiding for the past two years. Remember Riddell? You do seem to have problem with the drums and the singers search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&author_id=41289

What a whopper

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I see the couple of people who went way over the top, throwing accusations and name calling still haven't been man enough to come back and say they were wrong / apologise.

With regard to your comment of 'Any chance you can tell me who has been creating atmosphere at Wigan games for the last 30 years?'
Obviously I can't give you names and addresses, but I presume that the fans you refer to have been creating an atmosphere by making noise rather than standing/sitting in silence - which seems to me is just what the Brigantes are encouraging everyone to do.

As far as I'm aware, from the appearance of the people you are talking about, I would take a stab at them not all being a 'bunch of 12 year olds'. But you could be right - there some bl**dy big 12 year olds knocking about these days.

You also appear to want me to tell fans who sing to shut up. I'm sorry but I won't be able to help you there. If you want them to be quiet - I suggest that you do that yourself at the next home match.

I see you also think that the Brigantes 'aren't helping'. In what way are fans who sing not helping? Not helping with what? Putting the players off with all that noise?

And thanks for letting the fans who sing know that you don't want them to represent you. I'm sure it will be duly noted by all concerned and a real weight off their shoulders.

For the benefit of anyone who has clicked on page 7 of this thread first and hasn't read any of the earlier stuff... don't bother. This is an astonishingly tedious thread. I made the mistake of starting at the beginning and that's 5 minutes of my life I can't get back....

Yes you can, you can borrow my time machine, I've just come back from Rogues 21st birthday party in 1937, bl**dy good do, pity about the Hindenburg though.

I'm finding that a lot with these brigantes threads; I was just debating whether to read the earlier posts or not.

They all end the same, some one says something fairly neutral / critique, they get jumped by one of the brigantes for being negative, someone says something really extreme about the brigantes (which usually sounds unfounded) and they're simply insulted.

Once again, by falling for the bait we cover ourselves in glory, again. I despair.

Usually, it's right to ignore the bait but when someone (and a mod at that) tries to stir things up by making remarks about hooliganism and Police surveillance of the group then that has to challenged. I don't believe it was a Tongue in cheek post, wink or no wink. The club read these forums after all. In some respects I'm not bothered what some people think about us but suggestions about hooliganism, racism etc need to be challenged. Do you suggest we let such slurs go without any response?

It would have been better to lock the thread straight after Sadfish excellent post on page one.
Just a reminder of what he said.

There's no need to lock anything just because someone has had a sense of humour by-pass. It was established early on what plod were up to as one of the group had talked to them. Just because some are overly sensitive to the word Brigantes being used when it doesn't fit into their agenda is their problem. Being a mod doesn't stop you posting things that might upset the over-sensitive.

They would also film for evidence gathering purposes, I imagine they had some intelligence (good or bad) for potential disorder. Games are catogorised and depending on the potential for disorder you have no officers to alot. It's important to capture images if incidents happen and suspects can be identified at a later date.

Any chance the brigantes can get a song going thats not got a wooooow wow in it or a 'continental' drum beat?

We have quite a few really. People just havn't been joining in though. Part of the reasoning behind a switch to more continental songs was due to the success of Dale Cavese and then the new 'Cherry and white' song. I agree it might have gone slightly OTT but I promise you they will sound quality at a big game when everyone joins in. Recently people have not been joining in so we have just been making whatever noise we can.

You are welcome in S2 to start a song, people WILL join in.