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| Quote ="Pieman"neither was Jason Robinsons but he didnt do to bad......'"
Whilst no sane man would denay Robinsons talent, when he swapped, RU were still embracing their full time professionalism.
Whilst rugby league, imo, still produces grater rugby talent in the backs, there are players in union who shouldn't be sniffed at, such as Ben Foden.
As a Saints fan, I struggle to decide how well Eastmond will go. I'm sure he'll rip it up at club level, but I wonder whether he'll be considered too small for the international scene. His ability under a high ball could be an issue and, although he's from what might be considered a tougher code, I don't see him getting up and dusting him self off after some big fat frenchman's ran his studs down him in a ruck.
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| Quote ="Odem"I seriously hope Sam plays crap in the 4 nations. I couldn't really care less if England do pants again, it will be no different to what I am used to. I am going to Wembley with some mates but I seriously find myself excited by the prospect of watching Lockyer in one of his last ever games and seeing Marshall run riot, I am not looking forward to seeing our national team play. '"
I don't quite get this. On the one hand you've got Sam who, by the reckoning of many, is the brightest prospect we've had in ages yet you're only excited at the prospect of seeing Lockyer and Marshall. Hell, I'm a Leeds fan and I'd rather see Sam do well for England than seeing the others do well for their respective sides.
Ask yourself this: which is most likely hurt ST? Being booed by Leeds fans at Headingley or a situation where Wigan fans aren't remotely excited by the prospect of seeing him play? Surely, particularly with union sniffing around, you lot should be getting behind the lad?
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| Quote ="Mr.No.It.All"Press conference soon. Announcement of Joel leaving and a major player signing a new and mega improved offer. Watch this space.'"
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| Quote ="Mr.No.It.All"Press conference soon. Announcement of Joel leaving and a major player signing a new and mega improved offer. Watch this space.'"
Pryce?
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| Quote ="Mr.No.It.All"Press conference soon. Announcement of Joel leaving and a major player signing a new and mega improved offer. Watch this space.'"
Improved offer for/from who/what?
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| im guessing Mr No It All will prove once again that he actually Knows F**k All
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| Quote ="[Gareth"im guessing Mr No It All will prove once again that he actually Knows F**k All'"
He has previous?
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| sam tomkins has next season with wigan then he is off to ru.to be honest it's a short career good luck to the lad
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| Well the new and improved contract will make him the highest earner at Wigan, maybe in Super League too. Also pressure on the RFL to make adjustments to the SC to stop other players leaving.
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| Quote ="Mr.No.It.All"Well the new and improved contract will make him the highest earner at Wigan, maybe in Super League too. Also pressure on the RFL to make adjustments to the SC to stop other players leaving.'"
I really do hope you "No It All" I would have thought Sam would be pretty high up on highest earners if not top already.
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| I was told something very interesting today on this subject.
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| Quote ="St pete"I was told something very interesting today on this subject.'"
Congratulations.
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| Quote ="Mr.No.It.All"Well the new and improved contract will make him the highest earner at Wigan, maybe in Super League too. Also pressure on the RFL to make adjustments to the SC to stop other players leaving.'"
Well if Joel goes you'll have cap money. What adjustments would you suggest would be possible? Even raising the cap wouldnt be enough I dont think. Maybe some kind of percentage dispensation for 'home grown' players?
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| Quote ="twosevenzero"Congratulations.'"
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Well if Joel goes you'll have cap money. What adjustments would you suggest would be possible? Even raising the cap wouldnt be enough I dont think. Maybe some kind of percentage dispensation for 'home grown' players?'"
Think thats what they are pushing at, or a suggestion on here too is a 'marquee player'
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| Quote ="DANN"He hardly ever played at full back in union and cant even remember one occasion in league. You can get away with it on the wing which is where his best position was in both union and league. Numbers 10 and 15 get you around the park.
Sam will eventually go to union but I dont think hes ideally suited for it. Wingers or Centres are the only players that hardly have to change their game to switch successfully'"
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Well if Joel goes you'll have cap money. What adjustments would you suggest would be possible? Even raising the cap wouldnt be enough I dont think. =#FF0000Maybe some kind of percentage dispensation for 'home grown' players?'"
I've been putting that argument forward for over five years.
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| Quote ="Mr.No.It.All"Think thats what they are pushing at, or a suggestion on here too is a 'marquee player''"
I would be interested to see what effect having a 'marquee player' would have on moral at SL clubs , it may cause resentment. A dispensation for home grown players would encourage clubs to invest in youth rather than quick fixes and maybe give teams the clout to retain more star players and maybe up the quality of a smaller number of overseas players.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I've been putting that argument forward for over five years.'"
Well it's something we agree on then. I don't think it would get many votes over at HKR though
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I've been putting that argument forward for over five years.'"
I've also been saying the same thing. The RFL have to look at this before we lose anymore good young players.
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| Quote ="Mr.No.It.All"Think thats what they are pushing at, or a suggestion on here too is a 'marquee player''"
Your have previously stated there WILL be a marquee signing, do you really know it all?
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"Your have previously stated there WILL be a marquee signing, do you really know it all?'"
Where have I mentioned this? It's one of our Marquee players signing a new deal.
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| Quote ="Mr.No.It.All"Where have I mentioned this? It's one of our Marquee players signing a new deal.'"
Ahhh sorry miss read thought you wrote major marquee player signing, my faith in you is restored .
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"I would be interested to see what effect having a 'marquee player' would have on moral at SL clubs , it may cause resentment. A dispensation for home grown players would encourage clubs to invest in youth rather than quick fixes and maybe give teams the clout to retain more star players and maybe up the quality of a smaller number of overseas players.'"
I dont think Wakey would go for that!
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| Quote ="St pete"I've also been saying the same thing. The RFL have to look at this before we lose anymore good young players.'"
Talent makes players famous. It's fame that makes them rich. Union's profile is, and will probably remain, much higher than ours. Consequently it will continue to attract young players regardless of the money we're able to offer. It might make the difference in retaining the odd player but I doubt it will make the hige difference that some envisage.
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