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| He is a cheat anyway. He celebrated despite knowing he had dropped the ball. Cheap shots on Tomkins all game as well. Rugby Gods must have had their say.
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| There is no way that Maguire's effort was a try last night and I cant really see how anyone can complain about it. They have got cause to complain though about one of Richards tries shouldnt because the pass by Carmont was a mile forward.
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| Quote ="onedego"you can't expect them to bring 72000 people to a rugby game. Only 2000 of the population of Leeds speak english. The other 70000 have kebab shops to run.'"
What is insinuated here then? The ugly face of racism.
I find it quite insulting,
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| Quote ="Ferdy"While I agree it was not a try at all. I would question your geography. You do realise Leeds is in west Yorkshire and is one of the bigger cities outside of London. A lot more urban than Wigan, and not everyone is a farmer?'"
no they arnt........the ones that arnt are either pigeon breeders, ferret owners, or wanna be country yokels in flat caps and wellies, dragging a whippet along on a lead..........
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| Quote ="Ferdy"What is insinuated here then? The ugly face of racism.
I find it quite insulting,'"
Agreed. (Though racism doesn't have an attractive side).
If the poster was suggesting however that the only people in Leeds who work hard and own businesses are immigrants/from ethnic minorities then he may have had a point (though exaggerated) that was wrongly put - the main problem with this country is not with immigrants, who are normally hard working and well educated, but with native Britons, who are far too often ill-educated and idle. Native British scroungers vastly outnumber overseas abusers of this country's welfare system.This would however apply to Wigan and everywhere else in this country, not just Leeds.
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| Quote ="Ferdy"What is insinuated here then? The ugly face of racism.
I find it quite insulting,'"
Deal with it.
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| ahhh, how racism is brought into a perfectly innocent statement
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"no they arnt........the ones that arnt are either pigeon breeders, ferret owners, or wanna be country yokels in flat caps and wellies, dragging a whippet along on a lead..........
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Now all the above is true but we ain't all farmers!
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| Quote ="TheSurgeon"Deal with it.
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Shouldn't have to
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| Quote ="onedego"ahhh, how racism is brought into a perfectly innocent statement'"
Heard similar sort of statements from EDL, nf etc...
To say only 2000 Leeds population can speak English and the rest are working in kebab shops is not innocent statement at all. You may think it is innocent but most genuine people should see through this
We play and watch rugby you are the better team and deserve to be miles in front of us, but the comments you made above have no place on these boards
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Heard similar sort of statements from EDL, nf etc...
To say only 2000 Leeds population can speak English and the rest are working in kebab shops is not innocent statement at all. You may think it is innocent but most genuine people should see through this
We play and watch rugby you are the better team and deserve to be miles in front of us, but the comments you made above have no place on these boards'"
Time to go read up on the difference between racism and stereotype!
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| Quote ="onedego"Time to go read up on the difference between racism and stereotype!'"
Can argue all you want your stereotype shows up a inherent racist view.
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Can argue all you want your stereotype shows up a inherent racist view.'"
So, saying that a vast majority of the population of Leeds are foreign nationals is racist? Nope, that's a stereotype
Saying that that majority of kebab shops are run by foreign nations is racist? Nope, again that's a sterotype.
Saying that Leeds have a crap, dirty rugby team with a crap, dirty ground, and fans who like to cause a bit of trouble? That's fact mixed with generalisation.
Racism would be saying "there's too many XXXXXXXXXX in this country and they should all die". Which is a statement I do not support.
I won the argument cos "ah doo talk inglish proper lark", Wigan won the game, and Lancashire won the War... wind ter neck in with yer "my doodie dont stink" attitude, an opp it.
Nuff said
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| anyway... one way or another, it would never have been a try. And he proved how shallow he is by celebrating the fact... Was he celebrating cos he genuinely thought he scored? If so, he doesn't know much about the sport... Or was he celebrating because he thought he'd pulled a swift one on daft sod in the middle
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| Quote ="onedego"So, saying that a vast majority of the population of Leeds are foreign nationals is racist? Nope, that's a stereotype
Saying that that majority of kebab shops are run by foreign nations is racist? Nope, again that's a sterotype.
Saying that Leeds have a crap, dirty rugby team with a crap, dirty ground, and fans who like to cause a bit of trouble? That's fact mixed with generalisation.
Racism would be saying "there's too many XXXXXXXXXX in this country and they should all die". Which is a statement I do not support.
I won the argument cos "ah doo talk inglish proper lark", Wigan won the game, and Lancashire won the War... wind ter neck in with yer "my doodie dont stink" attitude, an opp it.
Nuff said'"
The point is your stereotypes show who you really are!
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| Quote ="onedego"anyway... one way or another, it would never have been a try. And he proved how shallow he is by celebrating the fact... Was he celebrating cos he genuinely thought he scored? If so, he doesn't know much about the sport... Or was he celebrating because he thought he'd pulled a swift one on daft sod in the middle'"
Just curious but do you have the same attitude when mr tomkins celebrates a well acted penalty?
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Just curious but do you have the same attitude when mr tomkins celebrates a well acted penalty?'"
Nah, but let's get one thing certain... McGuire showed his true sportsmanship when he took Pat Richards down last year. The team in their entirity showed it by shaking the posts while Pat was lining up to take the penalty... Sam Tomkins has been mostly clean this year, I haven't watched the game back yet, but I'm sure as I am man that Leeds were by far the fithier team last night.
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| Quote ="onedego"Nah, but let's get one thing certain... McGuire showed his true sportsmanship when he took Pat Richards down last year. The team in their entirity showed it by shaking the posts while Pat was lining up to take the penalty... Sam Tomkins has been mostly clean this year, I haven't watched the game back yet, but I'm sure as I am man that Leeds were by far the fithier team last night.'"
The top statement is from someone who has never played any sport at the top level. I have and most people would agree if the roles were reversed a Wigan player would have pulled our player down.
The bottom statement I am actually going to agree with you, we were the dirtier team last night.
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| I think we'll leave this thread be but in my opinion i'm not quite sure were any racist comments have been made. It's bugger all to do with the game though!
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