IMO, it's Sam's charge we should be more worried about for two reasons.

1 - His is a lot harder to defend, as 'running in and punching' doesn't leave much wiggle room.

2 - We can cope without 1 second-rower for a couple of games. Being without Sam, Gleeson, Richards and potentially Deacon put a lot of strain on the backs.

The disciplinary board have all evidence and I trust them to make the right call. We will see who is correct.

Besides whether he hit chest first or not he went in with the obvious intention of hurting Yeaman and that in it's own should constitute a ban. Throw in the brawl aswell and I would be amazed if he escapes a ban.

Fwiw Yeaman should get a game or two aswell.

Intention of harming means nothing to the RFL we should know that by now. You can swing an arm and miss and nothing happens you wont get anything unless you make contact whether the intent was clearly there or not.

Intention to hurt isn't the same as intention to hurt someone illegally. When you go in for a big hit you intend to hurt the player. When you go in with too much aggression you're more likely to make a basic mistake, which is what I believe Joel did by leaning into the tackle to put more force behind it. I also don't think they can factor in the brawl, he hasn't been cited for it and it appears Yeaman was the instigator so that could in fact be used in mitigation.

didnt fitzgibbon (apologies if spelled incorrectly) run in throwing a punch after the joel tomkins incident ? or did i imagine that =s

Throw in the brawl where yeaman started it? Joel acted in self defence, is that illegal as well now?

Yes he did.

Jeez, looks like I'll be kicking the goals at this rate

Yeaman started it which is why he should get a ban too, but Joel was harldy cowering away was he, he needed no invitation to start throwing some if his own.

Look, obviously all your players are angels in your eyes so there's not much point carrying on this discussion.

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Look at Tompkins left hand, looks like he's trying to brake Yeaman's neck

p**s off his left hand is just handing in him off or is that not allowed now
its his right the rfl will be looking at
which in my opinion hits chest then in the motion of shoving him off ends in the face
you see 5 of them in defence in every game no difference between front or back of forearm

Muppet. How can you hand someone off in that position.

If somebody punched you what would you do? Ask for another?

Break his neck with the palm of his hand?

hand in face = hand off
t*t

Who are you calling a t*t. But then again you can get clever when your hid behind a keyboard

OOOOOhhhhhhhh
so your same as your players i.e manu
alright to thuggery on littlest man on pitch(didnt see him swinging head for coley or lima)
but not tomkins running it in hard
you said muppet i said t*t

What Sam Tomkins did was cheap and cowardly and deserves a ban.What Joel did,Peacock and others have been doing it for years.

After you told me to p*ss off. Don't like being called names.

Sam's got off lightly.

Under section 2.7 of the [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/~rflmedia/docs/On%20Field%20Compliance%20Sentencing%20Guidelines%202010%20-%20Final.pdfRFL ON FIELD COMPLIANCE PROCEDURES & SENTENCING GUIDELINES – 2010[/url Law 15.1 (A) state that running in & punching is a grade C-D offence, which is the narrative given by the RFL on his [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2401Disciplinary Item.[/url A grade C-D offence carries a 2-5 game ban. Max Sam will get is 2!

The RFL have yet again proven spineless and in Wigan's favour.

And let me guess, it's a massive conspiracy and ex-Wigan players also get off lightly for the same offence because they used to play for Wigan...

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Not impossible. Strange how on radio yesterday, Craig Murdoch was saying talking to the Hull players in the week leading up to the game. They all thought Joel Tompkins was a cheap shot merchant who always comes in second man. So he has obviously got a reputation

well, i am not one of the 'most', joel tomkins is a thug and could of caused a very serious injury to yeaman, he knew what he was doing and they way some of the wigan fans on here refuse to see the truth is embarrasing. i think at the very least he should get 4 but the dirty cheapshot b@stard deserves longer