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| Quote ="Pieman"In rugby its called being a pussy'"
Which bit?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Which bit?'"
Moaning to the ref for foul play, sort it out yourself. If you played the game you would know.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Ok. Glad we got that bit sorted. I think I did say that I didn't know whether it was a chicken wing, so I will leave that decision to the people who apparently know such stuff! Either way, clearly some element of dangerous play has come into the tackles (on Wilkin and Soliola) or else there would have been no charge. Whether the element of danger is sufficient for a ban remains to be seen. I can't see it myself not because I don't think there was danger - I do - but because the RFL love their warning letters!
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I do know such stuff its why i explained it to you, the thing is the people making the decision may not know such stuff and only deem what they think.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"No, of course not. In your world, men are all ar$eholes who think it's manly to destroy someone else's career so all the other men think they are $hit hot. In my world that's called being total s.'"
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| Quote ="Pieman"Moaning to the ref for foul play, sort it out yourself. If you played the game you would know.'"
I'm female so unless I was under 11 years old, I wouldn't play rugby league with blokes.
Ok, so as I've said before, when Leon Pryce groped balls and the player complained to the ref or on that occasion when a player complained to the ref that he was bitten ... were those two players who complained also pussies?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Massive over reaction'"
Get a grip.
There are far, far worse things that happen on a rugby park and none of those are brought to the attention of the man in charge by a squealing little rat bag (who indulges in more than his fair share of the ruff stuff).
You never saw Liam Farrell whining after Dixon pulled that hard on his neck he was ready to call the ref over because he thought he had injured him.
Wrenching on a mans arm is not a fair thing to be doing, but dont kid yourself, they are all at it. However it is just the soft s that run to the ref and tell tale tit.
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| Complaining to the referee about what an opposition player has done is seen a sign of weakness in rugby imo. Leave that to the football players.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I'm female so unless I was under 11 years old, I wouldn't play rugby league with blokes.
Ok, so as I've said before, when Leon Pryce groped balls and the player complained to the ref or on that occasion when a player complained to the ref that he was bitten ... were those two players who complained also pussies?'"
Yep, they should have just pasted the nonce.
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| Sulrey gropping someone balls is more punishable than stertching there arms
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| I mean stretching there arms
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| Quote ="MR FRISK"I mean stretching there arms
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"their", not "there"
And why not edit the post rather than posting another message? That's what the edit button is for.
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| Quote ="Pieman"Yep, they should have just pasted the nonce.'"
Straight red. That would have been great!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Straight red. That would have been great!'"
Maybe not
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| Wilkin has a history of being mardy. In fact he was that mardy a couple of seasons ago at Headingley, that keef had to have a word!
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| Having already watched Lima chicken wing one of his team-mates, I'm not surprised Wilkin decided to say something to the ref when he tried it on again.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Having already watched Lima chicken wing one of his team-mates, I'm not surprised Wilkin decided to say something to the ref when he tried it on again.'"
Now i'd understand that if it had actually been a chicken wing but it wasn't. If they'd missed a high shot then he did it again then fair enough but not when he didnt even do the same thing.
But the main thing is. Isn't only the Captain supposed to talk to the ref? Well your captains are Wellens/Graham so was Wilkins acting captain? (I know wellens was injured so Graham could have been off too) because if he wasn't then shouldnt he have been done for dissent? As i'm pretty sure you're not supposed to go moaning to the ref like that unless you're the captain.
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| Quote ="hula89"Now i'd understand that if it had actually been a chicken wing but it wasn't. If they'd missed a high shot then he did it again then fair enough but not when he didnt even do the same thing.
But the main thing is. Isn't only the Captain supposed to talk to the ref? Well your captains are Wellens/Graham so was Wilkins acting captain? (I know wellens was injured so Graham could have been off too) because if he wasn't then shouldnt he have been done for dissent? As i'm pretty sure you're not supposed to go moaning to the ref like that unless you're the captain.'"
If Wilkin wants to tell the teacher when the big boys are picking on him, then he should be free to, if he wants
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| Quote ="hula89"Now i'd understand that if it had actually been a chicken wing but it wasn't. If they'd missed a high shot then he did it again then fair enough but not when he didnt even do the same thing.
But the main thing is. Isn't only the Captain supposed to talk to the ref? Well your captains are Wellens/Graham so was Wilkins acting captain? (I know wellens was injured so Graham could have been off too) because if he wasn't then shouldnt he have been done for dissent? As i'm pretty sure you're not supposed to go moaning to the ref like that unless you're the captain.'"
You can report an incident to the ref during the game. There's been quite a few instances of players reporting biting during matches over the years. Technically nothing wrong with how Wilkin went about it.
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| with this situation does anyone agree that it would only be fair for the player in question (wilkin) to get the ban that would have been worthy of the alleged challenge if the RFL deem that there was no such incident. and that wilkin was just trying to make trouble for trouble's sake??
would make players think twice before moaning to the referee like that??
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| I think if Lima is going to get a ban, it will most likely be for the first challenge he was cited for and not what Wilkin was moaning about
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| Quote ="seanm89"with this situation does anyone agree that it would only be fair for the player in question (wilkin) to get the ban that would have been worthy of the alleged challenge if the RFL deem that there was no such incident. and that wilkin was just trying to make trouble for trouble's sake??
would make players think twice before moaning to the referee like that??'"
If Lima doesn't want to be accused of chicken wing tackles, perhaps he should cut out his chicken wing tackles?
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"If Lima doesn't want to be accused of chicken wing tackles, perhaps he should cut out his chicken wing tackles?'"
not saying he did, not saying he didnt, im just saying that in this case where a fellow player has moaned about it to the ref(like a little girl) if there is no substance to the alleged claim then that player should get the ban he was trying to inflict on the other player???
surely thats fair enough?
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"If Lima doesn't want to be accused of chicken wing tackles, perhaps he should cut out his chicken wing tackles?'"
He didnt wilkin was just sulking and throwing his toys out of his pram
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| Quote ="Pieman"He didnt wilkin was just sulking and throwing his toys out of his pram'"
When Pies whinge like they are doing on this thread, we Saints fans know they are worried!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"icon_lol.gif
When Pies whinge like they are doing on this thread, we Saints fans know they are worried!'"
Would you not be worried if there's a chance your new prop would be out of the WCC?
Considering it comes down to the clowns at Red Hall whether or not he plays, I'd say we're perfectly entitled to be worried.
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