I take it that none of you saw Ganson take J Tomkins aside and list a load of offences, counting them off on his fingers as he did so?

No?
Thought not.

Shortly afterwards, Ganson lost patience and binned poor Coley who was taking the rap for others' repeatedly foul play.

By the way, congrats on a good overall performance.
Good game.

yes I heard that. wigan were on a warning so any more foul play should have resulted in a sinbin. Coley didn't commit a foul so shouldn't have been sinbinned, is that clear enough for you? No? Thought not.

As it happens, I had noticed, hence my comment about "poor Coley".
If not him, it would have been whoever Ganson thought.

Do we agree that Wigan had reached the limit on foul play?

Yes, but then we didn't commit a foul, and still had someone sin binned.

reached it at the point of getting a warning but didn't go over it at the point Coley was wrongly binned. Hence your sarcy comment about Wigan fans not knowing we were on a warning was totally ridiculous because it doesn't change anything about the wrongness of the decision.

I feel that its is time referee's like Ganson should be made accountable for their actions. They make far too many errors and seem to be getting away with below par performances week in & week out. Ganson is just a disgrace!!!!

Was Ganson the video ref tonight ? because whoever it was was about to make a massive booboo before someone had a quick word.

Ganson doesn't even know the rules of the game, as he was going to disallow Saints try tonight until Clarky enlightened the muppet.

OK, have it your way.
Coley was wrongly binned and that's all there is to it.
Ignore all the misdemeanours your lads got away with for no binnings.
Ignore the fact that your team are 2nd in the penalty count stakes across the whole Super League but, according to posters around here, Leeds are the dirty team.
Blame the refs, all of them.
Blame the RFL.

Even when you win you cling on to your perceived victimhood.

Good luck in the semis ... oh, hang on ...

Your missing the point, no-ones arguin that we were on a warning, but then Coley DID NOT COMMIT A FOUL and then got sinbinned?! Then later in the game Leeds were also put on a warning after a longer string of penalties than we were.

There is a difference between being dirty and being heavily penalised, with the style of our defence we are going to give away a lot of penalties for holding down and messing around at the PTB, but you don't see our players going in knee up, elbowing people to the face etc etc, thats what dirty means.

could have sworn I said we deserved to be on a warning but don't let the facts get in the way of your unerring ability to be a complete pillock.

Deserved to be on a warning? ... you were lucky to still have 13 men on the pitch at that point anyway.

Nonetheless, I see we've reached the stage where your arguments have run dry and you are reduced to the playground stuff.
That didn't take long.
Bye.

Not really, you just decided to ignore our points and kept repeating the same question.

Let me make this point, it took a longer string of penalties on the run for Wire to be given a warning than ourselves.

you introduced the sarcasm sunshine. Close the door on your way out.

Did you see Ganson take Sinfield to one side explain your run on pens explain next one was in the bin! Then 5 mins later you give a pen away and low and behold no binning!!!

Mr Ganson Bottled it , fact ! he had told Ablett he was offside and not to make a challenge so when he made connection automatic penalty , but the man led with his elbow at head height and not even a yellow , ganson must have seen enough to give him ten , but saying that the RFL may have said it was punishment enough where as now he should face a ban .
as for Bailey , the man is a gormless idiot , he has no balls and there was intent when he led with the Knee , aweful , again ganson seen enough to put him on report so come on TEN minutes sit down . then , ok Wigan were warned for persistant foul play but he sent Coley for tackling burrow , ok a little late but nothing malicious about it .then when later on he warned Leeds they then within a couple of minutes gave away 3 penatlies and nothing was done . get out you Rule book Ganson or at least be consistant in what you are doing !

As the rules stand, the ref can't give a yellow card for foul play (other than fighting).

If I could choose one rule to change, that would be the one.

Much as I dislike wendyball, I think their system of red & yellow cards is a better one. Red card for serious foul play (like Ablett's), yellow for less serious ones (like Bailey's), and 2 yellows=red.

well the ruling needs to change , though as you say Ablett should have walked . that was serious foul play ,it was a disgusting challenge . and if the RFL do not give him a ban this week then it needs looking at sooner rather than later , it is a 2 game ban every day of the week and a decent fine for that matter .

For not the first time I will say that the GF will be decided by a referee. 1999, 2002 and 2009 have been decided with bad referreeing decisions, and i think 2010 will be the same.

I have to say, as one who welcomed the selection of Ganson for this match, that I have been royally shown up.

That was a very shallow and disappointing display from a referee who previously I rated (at least as an individual with his own mind, if not as someone completely fair). It was as bad as anything I've seen from Bentham or Silverwood, and is really starting to beg the double-question: how do we get rid of this controller of referees, and who would we trust to replace him?

this is very simple

ganson = gutless show pony

It gets worse every time i watch it. For me, the report system is a joke. Its only giving the ref an excuse poo out of a major decision.

Ganson is the best ref in SL.

As for gutless? He's one of the only refs that actually tries to enforce rules on foul play and dissent. A gutless ref wouldn't send off a player in the first tackle of a test match.

I agree ganson normally is fair with sendings offs, like 8 seconds with mozza at JJB stadium GB V AUS but he must have had a word in his ear to keep ablett on but he should have walked for thuggish behavour.

True. Scary, but true.



That's what makes the Ablett cop-out so blatant.