Quote ="Geoff"I'd be surprised at that, though admittedly I haven't seen all your games. From the ones I've seen, Graham, KFC & Eastmond have been the standout players.'" He's scored 7 tries already this season and I'd be amazed if there was another hooker in SL making the sort of metres he makes every week. His defence is also immense. He's been great this year. I'm not alone in thinking it either: www.redvee.net/forums/showthread ... 359-Roby...

Quote ="Geoff"I'd be surprised at that, though admittedly I haven't seen all your games. From the ones I've seen, Graham, KFC & Eastmond have been the standout players.'" He's scored 7 tries already this season and I'd be amazed if there was another hooker in SL making the sort of metres he makes every week. His defence is also immense. He's been great this year. I'm not alone in thinking it either: www.redvee.net/forums/showthread ... 359-Roby...

Most of his metres come around the ruck and I'd be surprised if many of those tries weren't from dummy half aswell.

Wrong. As wide of the mark as you could get. In fact, you are wider than Feka arriss which is WIDE

Well post the stats then! I could just as easily say you're wrong and not give anything to support that view. I'm not neccessarily doubting you but let's see on what you base that opinion.

Where are the stats to back up your blinkered view? Just because Roby is better than most at capitalising on a QPTB doesn't mean he can do nothing else.

If that was all he could do - why has he played wing/halves/loose recently?

Frankly, it's nonsense.

because potter is clueless?

And yet only 2 points behind the coaching magician despite an old squad full of one dimensional players and a long injury list

Shows how important referees are in the modern game...

Ignorance is bliss, what absolute drivel.

The PTB is far quicker in the NRL this season whilst the tactics of Hudds and yourselves don't exactly promote quality attacking rugby. You effectively turn it into a wrestling competition and strangle the life out of the game with 8-10 second PTB's. Nothing to do with concern for the game, more concern for your own club and their tactics currently employed.

I don't think anyone promotes dropping to the floor and rolling it back somehow but there's got to be a happy medium, teams being put on the back foot encourages expansive rugby as the halfs get more space.

Anyone that's watched KC over the years know his short passing game near the line is lethal as he sucks in defenders at marker because of his size, yet there was no mention of some quality expansive rugby in the build up to the Ashurst try and the Flannery break etc etc

Not a Saints - Wigan argument by any means but coaches ie Cullen and Morgan aren't happy with the strangulation at the PTB as this years mandate was a quicker ruck.

Stan,
Do you honestly believe there was a lot of expansive rugby in Saturdays game. How many passes did Gardner or Foster or either of the centres get.

I accept that Saints had a lot of backs missing so may have decided to play a more forward dominated game, but as I said three of the tries came from a pass from dummy and the first receiver scoring and one from the dummy half (Roby) scoring himself.
I don't recall a lot of ball movement in the game.

And with the cleaner, quicker ptb in the NRL why do we not get the endless scoots from dummy half in their games?

We don't in SL either, you're imagining it or at the very least exaggerating it.

FWIW Roby runs less from dummy half than the current flavour of the month, Shaun Lunt, and Michael Monaghan and about the same as Luke Robinson.

I've just watched the tries on boots 'n' all, and apart from two tries every try (both sides) could have been disallowed for not playing the ball with the foot.

I've just watched the Saints v Wigan tries::

McIlorum didn't play the ball with his foot in the lead up to the Goulding try
Sam and Bailey don't play the ball with their foot in the lead up to the Feka try

Not sure what your point is - you'll see the same in every game - including the NRL.

Don't worry, he was annoyin me when watchin them, he was right with a couple though but still bloody annoyin the hell out of me! At least you don't have to sit and watch it with him!

Ehhh, sit and learn young man, sit and learn.

The ptb rule is being ignored and is giving too much advantage to the attacking side. Do you want us to tap the ball like tick and pass?

Should we ignore the forward pass?

What's next! it'll be like basketball.

You'll have seven games in front of your t.v on Saturday / Sunday just count the number of proper play the balls.

Are you going after Phil Clarke's job?







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Top post.

The rule makers need to sort out what they want and stick to it.

We often see changes within the same season for petes sake.

One minute slower PTB's the next if you're not rolling away within an instant of contact its a penalty.

Must be a nightmare for a coach to work out defensive game plans when from one week to the next you dont know whether you're going to get away with a 9 second PTB or be restricted to about 4 seconds.

Also,isn't it about time we had one set of rules for Rugby League no matter where in the World it is played as opposed to have Super League rules and interpretations,NRL rules and then international rules. Its a joke.

One minute we are speeding our ruck up to match the Aussies the next we are slowing it down as the NRL did a couple of years ago and now we seem to be speeding it up again.

For a classic example of this refer to how Silverwood Policed the Leeds v Melbourne PTB to how the same ref Policed Saint v Leeds last weekend.

The way Saints played highlighted Leeds' total inability to control the ruck meaning the majority of Saints attack was in the middle third of the pitch. The muppets on sky loved the speed of the game but quite frankly the skill on display was limited to scooting.Compare their tries to most of ours this season, what would fans prefer? Incidentally why do the refs still not notice when Cunningham does his trademark sideways run from dummy half followed by a pass a yard forward to put someone in for a try?

The way Saints played highlighted Leeds' total inability to control the ruck meaning the majority of Saints attack was in the middle third of the pitch. The muppets on sky loved the speed of the game but quite frankly the skill on display was limited to scooting.Compare their tries to most of ours this season, what would fans prefer? Incidentally why do the refs still not notice when Cunningham does his trademark sideways run from dummy half followed by a pass a yard forward to put someone in for a try?

The way Saints played highlighted Leeds' total inability to control the ruck meaning the majority of Saints attack was in the middle third of the pitch. The muppets on sky loved the speed of the game but quite frankly the skill on display was limited to scooting.Compare their tries to most of ours this season, what would fans prefer? Incidentally why do the refs still not notice when Cunningham does his trademark sideways run from dummy half followed by a pass a yard forward to put someone in for a try?

The way Saints played highlighted Leeds' total inability to control the ruck meaning the majority of Saints attack was in the middle third of the pitch. The muppets on sky loved the speed of the game but quite frankly the skill on display was limited to scooting.Compare their tries to most of ours this season, what would fans prefer? Incidentally why do the refs still not notice when Cunningham does his trademark sideways run from dummy half followed by a pass a yard forward to put someone in for a try?

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