Give over! Quins are a poor team and to lose at home against them is very dissapointing.

Ok, I didn't pick that up

but one of the people I sit next to said "This is what we get by not employing British coaches"





It was poor and to be honest we could have won it if it were not for far too many brain farts from senior players but I do think the injuries are not helping. I really do think the half back combination was a failure and Bailey was very poor, both things forced on us by injuries.



As someone else said we have been shaping up for this loss for a few weeks and I think that is true. It's been one injury too many and that injury is Gleeson's IMO. Had he been fit to play I think we would have had enough to win and would have ground out a scrappy win.

Dave

I think the Quins players were calling for it. Not very gentlemanly, but I doubt it's against the rules of the game.

Unlucky Goons,now let's hope and pray that Saints beat the Tykes tonight.

Warrington 39,Wigan 26.
Warrington 25,Huddersfield 16
Warrington 2009 challenge cup winners and current holders!
Oh,and er,.........Warrington 58 quins?.........................0.

Hmm, not a good week for Mikey McGuire is it?

Do you want Richie Mathers back? Seems we're signing the current MOS for next season so he's a bit surplus...

It was a shocking defeat but one thing that is funny is how much enjoyment other teams are getting out of it. Ok we lost and yet we will still be top of the league by at leats 2 points. It was a poor performance, but we just have to get on with it. I hope we have a few more guys back next week or we could struggle again.

Spot on.

Hmmmmmm sounds like a Tics fan to me......... We had an off day........hasn't your team had an off day ( in fact it would appear this year and last and the one before that you had many) I would of course point you in the direction of this one just to remind you to be humble on the fans forum of Wigans top team

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but of course there are many of these to choose from....... asshat!

Yeh his players would have hidden the ball under their wheelchairs and hit it with their walking sticks

but then again they would never be leading in the first place

No, our full back just can't tackle, at least he can catch and is a dangerous attacker. Yours physically can't do anything of merit. We really missed Gleeson tonight, very shrewd swap that was.

Can't disagree with you there - Mathers plus £100k for a centre who never wanted to be at Wire in the first place, we were laughing all the way to the bank - sometimes it's a case of wrong time & place for a player and that was certainly the case with those two.

Other teams love watching Wigan lose, especially like last night for the simple reason of how many of us can remember the years of your full time professionalism & dominance of the sport & how you are "The Mighty Wigan" - that and your association with Uncle Mo. It's one of those facts like everyone likes watching Man Utd fail embarrassingly in Europe or get knocked out of the FA Cup at home by Leeds. Jealousy has much to do with it over the years I have to admit - however that doesn't make it any less funny.

Lessons learned from last night;
- Quins are a much better side now with most of their key players back as opposed to the injury hit whipping boys of earlier in the season. Credit where it is due for the second half performance.
- Players have to remain in their best position - Lockers is a top class 13 in attack / defence, but is wasted and largely ineffective at stand off.
- Bailey is no longer a functional SL centre due to his lack of pace and is in decline defensively.
- The jury is still out on whether Ainscough can ever develop an appropriate positional sense to be a good SL winger.
- Gleeson, Goulding and Coley are very underrated in terms of their overall contribution to Wigan this season, particularly in solidifying the defence and were hugely missed.
- Roberts has been a greater loss than I imagined he would be - the attack just doesn't seem anywhere near as dynamic.
- We have a really talented set of young players - but some are not physically or mentally ready to have the responsibility of a starting role in SL just yet and shouldn't be rushed.

yep.. that 100k sure came in handy for buying Ryan Atkins.

I hate it when fans spout this nonsense - Ainscough & Kev Penny are two incredibly exciting wingers with pace to burn & an ability to finish for fun. There are few enough players in RL these days who get a crowd on their feet when they have the ball - Sam Tomkins is one (not the best defender), Kyle Eastmond another (a rugby freak the like of which not seen since Jason Robinson), Ainscough & Penny are two more & really should not be allowed to leave the sport or SL because they "can't defend".

You didn't make that complaint when Martin Offiah was scoring tries for fun did you?

Why is it nonsense? A winger is no use to a team if he is consistently out of position in both defence and attack. His combination with Bailey, particularly in defence was truly woeful last night.

As I said the jury is out with Ainscough, as it is with Kevin Penny, as to whether they will ever be top level SL wingers. At this point in time, Darrell Goulding is a much better option than Shaun Ainscough for Wigan when available.


To even compare Ainscough and Penny to Offiah at this point in their career is laughable. Offiah had his defensive failings no doubt, but was on a different planet to them in attacking terms.

Does last night mean you haven't learned from the Bradford game?

Does not look like it







Comparing Offiah to Ainscough is like comparing Atkins to Inglis, just dont do it!

A few on here felt that game was a "Blessing in disguise" as it wouldn't happened again and Wane would have them running laps naked at 6 am to get the message home.

If the lesson is having a flattering scoreline at half time, then being beaten by the better side in the second half...then no. Certainly wasn't down to a lack of effort this time.

Quins at pretty much full strength are a completely different proposition to the depleted whipping boys of early in the season and were never going to be easy beats especially when we had half a team missing. So it proved.

We did for a while. Oh well, lets hope we go on another 7 match winning run again!

I'm just wondering who that's directed at? Granted Walker did on some occasions look a little frail last night, but I'm struggling to think of anyone else that applies to. Ainscough should now be able to come in and do the job asked of him.