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| I wonder if any directors and coaches of British clubs who have been successful in the last 10 years will be feeling a bit nervous this morning?
Though the chances of certain successful clubs ever being hauled over the coals for the interesting payment structures and other wheezes they used are pretty low, the RFL has turned a blind eye to these issues for years...
I don't condone what Melbourne are alleged to have done, but the posters on here pointing out how unfair it is that teams who develop players have to then let many of them go are quite right. Its just one of a number of desperately unfair and misguided aspects to a ridiculous system. The fact that its being repeatedly flouted in Australia and here in GB is clear evidence that the SC isn't working (how many times have muppet pro-SC posters been on this board touting the success of the Aussie cap system - I'd like to say that these people are probably feeling foolish today but I think we know that most of them don't really believe in the SC they just fear change, want to put their club first at all costs and hate and fear Wigan).
We and the Aussies need a system that rewards player development, gives clubs an incentive to grow crowds and revenues and stops clubs from spending too much (whether on players or stadiums or whatever). That's the kind of system I'd like to see both leagues adopt.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Would imagine we'd be up against thr rest of the NRL, SL and union. Maybe even union would have an advantage due to their higher salary cap. Wouldn't most NRL and SL be up to the cap already being mid-season?'"
Madge has much better knowledge of those players than anyone else. Maybe even much younger players who have not played in the NRL yet.
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| widdop in for Phelps, get a good player still but lose a quota player
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| Just seen Mathers' Twitter...
Apparently Matt King has a tattoo saying ''Melbourne Storm 2007 NRL champions''.
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| I would think we have an advantage over other SL clubs with MM being here
Saying that were likely at the cap or very close to it, signing one or two players for next season is a possibility although it would mean cutting some players who are already at our club
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| Apparently, sales of shredders in Warrington have increased dramatically this morning...
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| Quote ="ABP'"Just seen Mathers' Twitter...
Apparently Matt King has a tattoo saying ''Melbourne Storm 2007 NRL champions''.
Oh dear!'"
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| Quote ="Pieman"widdop in for Phelps, get a good player still but lose a quota player'"
They have many other quality players as well. I would think Roberts will be our FB next year.
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| Quote ="Geoff"Apparently, sales of shredders in Warrington have increased dramatically this morning...'"
Got a few second hand from Uncle Mo
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| The worst bit from all this for me is that the Storm could well lose players to the new Union club, the Reds. This is of course now run by Waldron.
So who will be the winners and who are the losers?
The Storm or what's left of them will be the real losers along with Rugby League.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Got a few second hand from Uncle Mo
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You took your time. Welcome back to the board
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| People need to be realistic about the exodous of players from the Storm, the cap would prevent us signing a handful of stars, as it would any club.
RU will almost certainly benefit from this.
What is shows is the cap isn't working, the NRL has been cr@pped on by the Storm and i suspect it isnt just them. The RFL will never pay more than lip service to it over here, as the clubs hold the power and the game isnt big, strong or brave enough to hand out a punishement such as we have seen today.
A simple look at the squads in SL will tell you that everyone is not spending the ÂŁ1.8 million, if some are they are financial guru's who should be in charge of the economy, and if others are, frankly, they deserve to go bust.
The only bit of the cap that ever made sense to me was the 50% limit, leaving the over 50% free for ground improvements, player development etc. In its current form, i see no advantage to it, whatsoever.
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| It'll be interesting to see whether any Storm players do move on, certain individuals such as Inglis and Slater are unobtainable by SL clubs because of there want to play SOO, but other such as as Blair and Sika Manu because of there NZ background would come over for the right deal I'm sure.
I feel sorry for Melbourne players and coaching staff who probably didn't have a clue what was going on.
I'd always wondered when looking at the Storm team how they could afford under the cap so many quality players compared to other clubs around them, very similar to Saints a few years back, although it seems the only difference between Melbourne and Saints is, Melbourne got caught and Saints didn't.
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| There is talk on the VT that Bellamy could be sacked within the week.
Obviously I’m over the moon with Madge and with what he’s done so far and I’m not calling for him to be replaced in any way shape or form but I’m sure we could accommodate the greatest coach in the world in some capacity at the club?
Shame this story didn’t break last week maybe he could have been our new England coach?
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"There is talk on the VT that Bellamy could be sacked within the week.
Obviously I’m over the moon with Madge and with what he’s done so far and I’m not calling for him to be replaced in any way shape or form but I’m sure we could accommodate the greatest coach in the world in some capacity at the club?
Shame this story didn’t break last week maybe he could have been our new England coach?'"
Anyone who is available who Madge thinks could improve us, he will get. We won't get Bellamy though.
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| What a horrendous day for the sport.
Be interesting to hear Maguire's reaction to this.
I hope if anything it serves as a wakeup call and both the NRL and Super League learn something from this in terms of implementing more effective methods in discovering the cheats in the game.
Credit to the NRL for discovering this and handing out a severe punishment but the fact that this has gone several years un-noticed is worrying and lessons must be learned.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"What a horrendous day for the sport.
Be interesting to hear Maguire's reaction to this.
I hope if anything it serves as a wakeup call and both the NRL and Super League learn something from this in terms of implementing more effective methods in discovering the cheats in the game.
Credit to the NRL for discovering this and handing out a severe punishment but the fact that this has gone several years un-noticed is worrying and lessons must be learned.'"
After this you can be sure it won't happen in the NRL again. The RFL would not have the balls to do anything like this.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"There is talk on the VT that Bellamy could be sacked within the week.'"
Why?
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"very similar to Saints a few years back, although it seems the only difference between Melbourne and Saints is, Melbourne got caught and Saints didn't.'"
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Anyone who is available who Madge thinks could improve us, he will get. We won't get Bellamy though.'"
I don't think we will either.
BUT;
If Bellamy gets the boot this week then he's gonna be at the centre of a media storm in Aus and i'm sure his SOO gig will also come into question as well.
Maybe we can offer him some sort of role till then end of the season and let things die down a little. Worth a try?
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"After this you can be sure it won't happen in the NRL again. The RFL would not have the balls to do anything like this.'"
Maybe not before today but one positive to come out of this is that a precedent has been set now. The RFL should be liasing with the NRL in examining how to move forward with this issue.
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| Quote ="AJ"Why?'"
At the end of the day 'if' he knew about it then he's just as at fault as the owner as well.
I don’t agree with the SC but lets face it he’s cheated. Maybe getting the sack would be a sufficient punishment for this?
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"I don't think we will either.
BUT;
If Bellamy gets the boot this week then he's gonna be at the centre of a media storm in Aus and i'm sure his SOO gig will also come into question as well.
Maybe we can offer him some sort of role till then end of the season and let things die down a little. Worth a try?'"
No.
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| Quote ="CAM."No.
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Another excellent contribution from you there CAM. You obviously can’t post anything of use so why bother? Maybe the Cockney Latics forum would be more on your level.
Seriously tho are you like 12 years old or are you just an idiot?
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