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| Quote ="vastman"We have better props than you for a start, and the packs in general are similar. However you have Fielden which in itself puts you at a major disadvantage.
Hookers about the same,
Half backs you edge it.
Your backs are better.
Don't get above yourselves just yet.
By the way on paper Leeds, Saints and dare I say Hull have better squads than you - so what.'"
You really are your own worst enemy at times Vasty.
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| Quote ="DP_wwrlfc"Well lets compare the teams ....
Blaymire Phelps
Blanch Richards
Murphy Goulding
Millard Gleeson
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Tronc Coley
Obst Riddell
Moore Fielden
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I think in each position we either slightly better than you or match you atleast bar maybe Tronc over Coley but Coley can compete with anyone on his day and this year hes been immense. Then we have Richards, Roberts, Lockers, Sam and Joel Tomkins a good way ahead or miles ahead.'"
Tronc is light years ahead of Coley and I've only seen him play half a dozen times. I'd also argue Lockers is nowhere near 'a good way' or 'miles ahead' of Morrison.
Morrison has been arguably our best player this season and one of the best signings we've made for many a year IMO.
You may look better than us in the majority of one v one player match ups but in reality that means zilch. Half of the teams we've beat this season were the same. It's on the pitch on the day who plays the better as a TEAM that matters. No-one can argue with what Wigan have done so far this season, on each occasion I've seen them they have been top drawer. Very quick, very fit and playing to a very high intensity.
If we allow you to play like that and let you shift the ball wide quickly then we could be in trouble. If we can draw you into a battle up the middle and a grinding type of game I think we have a squeak. We've 4 big props who will keep battering the door down, they have laid the platform in all our better performances and how they play will be key to our chances.
The short turnaround from Friday could also be key and beneficial to us in making it a slower game.
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| Quote ="vastman"We have better props than you for a start, and the packs in general are similar. =#FF0040However you have Fielden which in itself puts you at a major disadvantage.
Hookers about the same,
Half backs you edge it.
Your backs are better.
Don't get above yourselves just yet.
By the way on paper Leeds, Saints and dare I say Hull have better squads than you - so what.'"
I'm sorry, but you've just totally lost any credibility that you may have had - have you actually watched Wigan play?
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| Quote ="upthecats"Tronc is light years ahead of Coley and I've only seen him play half a dozen times. I'd also argue Lockers is nowhere near 'a good way' or 'miles ahead' of Morrison.
Morrison has been arguably our best player this season and one of the best signings we've made for many a year IMO.
You may look better than us in the majority of one v one player match ups but in reality that means zilch. Half of the teams we've beat this season were the same. It's on the pitch on the day who plays the better as a TEAM that matters. No-one can argue with what Wigan have done so far this season, on each occasion I've seen them they have been top drawer. Very quick, very fit and playing to a very high intensity.
If we allow you to play like that and let you shift the ball wide quickly then we could be in trouble. If we can draw you into a battle up the middle and a grinding type of game I think we have a squeak. We've 4 big props who will keep battering the door down, they have laid the platform in all our better performances and how they play will be key to our chances.
The short turnaround from Friday could also be key and beneficial to us in making it a slower game.'"
Having seen both Tronc and Coley play this year on numerous occasions, there is very little to chose between the 2 of them, both having magnificent seasons.
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"I'm sorry, but you've just totally lost any credibility that you may have had - have you actually watched Wigan play?'"
Indeed. The only team Fielden has scored against in the past 2 years is Wakefield.
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| Quote ="CAM."Indeed. The only team Fielden has scored against in the past 2 years is Wakefield.
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So he is due for a try or two then, first at the DW
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| Quote ="upthecats"Tronc is light years ahead of Coley and I've only seen him play half a dozen times. I'd also argue Lockers is nowhere near 'a good way' or 'miles ahead' of Morrison.
Morrison has been arguably our best player this season and one of the best signings we've made for many a year IMO.
You may look better than us in the majority of one v one player match ups but in reality that means zilch. Half of the teams we've beat this season were the same. It's on the pitch on the day who plays the better as a TEAM that matters. No-one can argue with what Wigan have done so far this season, on each occasion I've seen them they have been top drawer. Very quick, very fit and playing to a very high intensity.
If we allow you to play like that and let you shift the ball wide quickly then we could be in trouble. If we can draw you into a battle up the middle and a grinding type of game I think we have a squeak. We've 4 big props who will keep battering the door down, they have laid the platform in all our better performances and how they play will be key to our chances.
=#FF0000The short turnaround from Friday could also be key and beneficial to us in making it a slower game.'"
If it's a slow game you want, then your coming to the right place in Wigan.
If I were a Wakey fan I'd hope my team would try and run Wigan off their feet, not allowing them to gain the upper hand at the ruck. Wakey may just be able to do it because of the fact Wigan have had such a tough game only two days earlier.
Then again as a Wigan fan, I personally think we'll wrestle you to death and get away with it because the refs will have been told to give extra leeway to teams this weekend because of the hectic schedule and obvious fatigue factor.
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| Quote ="jonh"You really are your own worst enemy at times Vasty.'"
How so jonh, so It doesn't match what you think so it's wrong.
This would be the same jonh who was bemoaning last years team as the worst Wigan team he could remember. Your a hypocrite at times, you just can't lose that condecending arrogance can you.
It wouldn't be so bad if you hadn't started the post by proclaiming us as "banana skin". Somehow we are going to manage this without a single player who is better than yours - give your head a shake.
As it happens I think it will be a straight win for Wigan - maybe by a big margin though I hope not. Frankly I don't care I would expect you to have a huge advantage at home and on a good run of form. So long as we beat you at home or any other time this season I'm happy.
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| Quote ="DP_wwrlfc"Well lets compare the teams ....
Blaymire Phelps
Blanch Richards
Murphy Goulding
Millard Gleeson
Morton Roberts
Cooke S Tomkins
Jeffries Leuluai
Tronc Coley
Obst Riddell
Moore Fielden
Henderson Bailey
Demetriou J Tomkins
Morrison Lockers
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Korkidas Feka
King O'Carroll
Leo-Latu McLlorum
Kirmond Mossop
I think in each position we either slightly better than you or match you atleast bar maybe Tronc over Coley but Coley can compete with anyone on his day and this year hes been immense. Then we have Richards, Roberts, Lockers, Sam and Joel Tomkins a good way ahead or miles ahead.'"
It's all opinion and yours is no more valid than anyone elses.
Blaymire Phelps PHELPS JUST
Blanch Richards RICHARDS JUST
Murphy Goulding MURPHY JUST
Millard Gleeson MILLARD JUST
Morton Roberts ROBERTS BY SOME WAY
Cooke S Tomkins TOMKINS
Jeffries Leuluai LEULUAI JUST
Tronc Coley TRONC BY A MASSIVE DISTANCE
Obst Riddell OBST BY A MILE, YOU ALL HATED RIDDELL LAST YEAR
Moore Fielden MOORE, EVEN HE DOESN'T KNOCK ON AS OFTEN AS THE GREAT PRETENDER
Henderson Bailey HENDERSON, PUTS MOR EFFORT IN ONE GAME THAN BAILY IN A SEASON
Demetriou J Tomkins TOMKINS, POOR OLD JD IS A BIT OLD NOW
Morrison Lockers MORRISON BETTER END OF
You missed Latu for some reason, he can be fun
Not what you think, but a few wins and your bigging up basically the same team as last season that you all rubbished - how fickle - how Wigan.
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| Quote ="jonh"Having seen both Tronc and Coley play this year on numerous occasions, there is very little to chose between the 2 of them, both having magnificent seasons.'"
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| Quote ="vastman"It's all opinion and yours is no more valid than anyone elses.
Blaymire Phelps PHELPS JUST
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Millard Gleeson MILLARD JUST
Morton Roberts ROBERTS BY SOME WAY
Cooke S Tomkins TOMKINS
Jeffries Leuluai LEULUAI JUST
Tronc Coley TRONC BY A MASSIVE DISTANCE
Obst Riddell OBST BY A MILE, YOU ALL HATED RIDDELL LAST YEAR
Moore Fielden MOORE, EVEN HE DOESN'T KNOCK ON AS OFTEN AS THE GREAT PRETENDER
Henderson Bailey HENDERSON, PUTS MOR EFFORT IN ONE GAME THAN BAILY IN A SEASON
Demetriou J Tomkins TOMKINS, POOR OLD JD IS A BIT OLD NOW
Morrison Lockers MORRISON BETTER END OF
You missed Latu for some reason, he can be fun
Not what you think, but a few wins and your bigging up basically the same team as last season that you all rubbished - how fickle - how Wigan.'"
This is belting
moore better than fielden
obst better than riddell
Morrison better than lockers
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| Quote ="vastman"It's all opinion and yours is no more valid than anyone elses.
Blaymire Phelps PHELPS JUST
Blanch Richards RICHARDS JUST
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Millard Gleeson MILLARD JUST
Morton Roberts ROBERTS BY SOME WAY
Cooke S Tomkins TOMKINS
Jeffries Leuluai LEULUAI JUST
Tronc Coley TRONC BY A MASSIVE DISTANCE
Obst Riddell OBST BY A MILE, YOU ALL HATED RIDDELL LAST YEAR
Moore Fielden MOORE, EVEN HE DOESN'T KNOCK ON AS OFTEN AS THE GREAT PRETENDER
Henderson Bailey HENDERSON, PUTS MOR EFFORT IN ONE GAME THAN BAILY IN A SEASON
Demetriou J Tomkins TOMKINS, POOR OLD JD IS A BIT OLD NOW
Morrison Lockers MORRISON BETTER END OF
You missed Latu for some reason, he can be fun
Not what you think, but a few wins and your bigging up basically the same team as last season that you all rubbished - how fickle - how Wigan.'"
Can someone ban this tool/troll?
That has to be one of the worst RL posts in the history of this site.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Can someone ban this tool/troll?
That has to be one of the worst RL posts in the history of this site.'"
I reckon he is just trying to wind us all up, don't fall for his complete nonsense
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"This is belting
moore better than fielden
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Morrison better than lockers
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God almighty your a dull lot, are you serious saying that Ridell is better than Obst, he's hear for his pension.
Morrison better than Shirley (Andy got me the job) Temple, yes and yes and I thought that when he was at the Bulls.
You must be the only people who haven't realised Fielden stopped playing years ago.
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| Quote ="vastman"It's all opinion and yours is no more valid than anyone elses.
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Millard Gleeson MILLARD JUST
Morton Roberts ROBERTS BY SOME WAY
Cooke S Tomkins TOMKINS
Jeffries Leuluai LEULUAI JUST
Tronc Coley TRONC BY A MASSIVE DISTANCE
Obst Riddell OBST BY A MILE, YOU ALL HATED RIDDELL LAST YEAR
Moore Fielden MOORE, EVEN HE DOESN'T KNOCK ON AS OFTEN AS THE GREAT PRETENDER
Henderson Bailey HENDERSON, PUTS MOR EFFORT IN ONE GAME THAN BAILY IN A SEASON
Demetriou J Tomkins TOMKINS, POOR OLD JD IS A BIT OLD NOW
Morrison Lockers MORRISON BETTER END OF
You missed Latu for some reason, he can be fun
[uNot what you think, but a few wins and your bigging up basically the same team as last season that you all rubbished - how fickle - how Wigan[/u.'"
And how Wakey to not realise that if you make key fundamental changes to a club, it can lead to a dramatic turnaround in all sorts of ways, not least in on-field form.
People were rightly rubbishing last year's Wigan side - because it was mostly poor. This year, however, it's been mostly pretty good. Is that not worthy of praise? If your club reinvigorated itself with hard work and innovative ideas, would you continue to berate it for what went before? (Bit of a silly question, of course, because how the hell would you lot know?).
But hey, you continue to find comfort in what Wigan were like last year. You won't be the first who made that mistake.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Can someone ban this tool/troll?
That has to be one of the worst RL posts in the history of this site.'"
I'm loving this, the Wigan arrogance and pretence of greatness is just flooding out. You really can't stand having your bubble burst.
These the same Wigan fans who have been blubbing for years.
Honest to god your the most hypocritical fans in SL.
You can't ban someone for giving an answer to a question - grow up.
PS: In the event of an unexpected Trinity win it's going to be unbearable on here come monday night
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| Quote ="vastman"I'm loving this, the Wigan arrogance and pretence of greatness is just flooding out. You really can't stand having your bubble burst.
These the same Wigan fans who have been blubbing for years.
Honest to god your the most hypocritical fans in SL.
You can't ban someone for giving an answer to a question - grow up.
PS: In the event of an unexpected Trinity win it's going to be unbearable on here come monday night
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You are a true moron.
Can you not see how laughable it is that you say each member of your pack bar is better than ours?
We've lost one game this season and have beat the likes of Saints and Wire in their own back yards. Wakey on the other hand???
You've got the better pack, you've got better centres and you only just miss out on the HB and FB spots? Why aren't you top again?
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| Quote ="vastman"I'm loving this, the Wigan arrogance and pretence of greatness is just flooding out. You really can't stand having your bubble burst.
These the same Wigan fans who have been blubbing for years.
Honest to god your the most hypocritical fans in SL.
You can't ban someone for giving an answer to a question - grow up.'"
The internet must have been a Godsend to you.
You can anonymously post any amount of meaningless, irrelevant drivel, with no factual back-up whatsoever, and there's no come-back for you. You can take the mickey, you can misrepresent what people have said, you can make sweeping and inaccurate statements, you can even talk tough - and nothing ever happens to you.
It must be like living out a childhood fantasy every time you go online.
If people try to challenge your inexperienced and naive opinions with intellectual responses, you simply ignore them and resort to abuse. If people get irritated by your mule-headed posts, you become pious and start talking about 'arrogance and hypocracy'. In real life you can't have it both ways, but online you can - and you've just discovered that, haven't you.
And you're not embarrassed by any of this, or the shortcomings it reveals in your character, because nobody knows who you really are and so it doesn't matter. Likewise, it doesn't matter when you're exposed as not having a clue what you're talking about - even with regard to your own team, or if, as I suspect happens regularly, when you get owned by other posters. You're a narcissist, so you don't like being bested, but, if the worst comes to the worst, you can always turn the computer off and pretend it didn't happen. Who would know?
And then of course there's all this silly bragging and baiting that you indulge in. If it comes to nothing on Monday, and your boys get whipped, you can just disappear for another season, can't you.
If Wakey lose on Monday, I'd like to challenge you now to be man enough to come on here and admit how wrong you were. I'd also like to guarantee to anyone else reading this that you won't. You know why? - because you're an internet cliche, and there are hundreds of nobodies just like you who post embittered, uninformed crap on sports forums and feel that their penis is a big bigger as a result.
And here's a final tip for you (which, for once, you would do well to listen to) - when an idiot shouts louder than everyone else, it doesn't make him seem less like an idiot, it makes him seem more like one.
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| Quote ="vastman"It's all opinion and yours is no more valid than anyone elses.
Millard Gleeson MILLARD JUST
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What have you seen in our 9 games from Millard that the rest of us haven't then? I've watched him every week and other than a couple of tries from plucking bomb's he has done next to nothing for us yet. Fair enough he hasn't really had the oppertunity but he is yet to contribute significantly for us as things stand.
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| Quote ="vastman"God almighty your a dull lot, are you serious saying that Ridell is better than Obst, he's hear for his pension.
Morrison better than Shirley (Andy got me the job) Temple, yes and yes and I thought that when he was at the Bulls.
You must be the only people who haven't realised Fielden stopped playing years ago.'"
embarrassing.
and the shame im feeling for you is making your post very hard to read without me
please stop now the hole is big enough
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| Quote ="vastman"How so jonh, so It doesn't match what you think so it's wrong.
This would be the same jonh who was bemoaning last years team as the worst Wigan team he could remember. Your a hypocrite at times, you just can't lose that condecending arrogance can you.
It wouldn't be so bad if you hadn't started the post by proclaiming us as "banana skin". Somehow we are going to manage this without a single player who is better than yours - give your head a shake.
As it happens I think it will be a straight win for Wigan - maybe by a big margin though I hope not. Frankly I don't care I would expect you to have a huge advantage at home and on a good run of form. So long as we beat you at home or any other time this season I'm happy.'"
Vasty, once more you embarrass yourself. Wigan in my opinion have had a trophy winning team for a good few years, just a poor coach or 2. I would also say i hoped our current coach would sign for us long before he did.
I dont lie or troll, i do not claim to have seen the next coming for my club then less than a year later slate him when he signs for another club.
The game is a banana skin. Leeds and Saints would clearly on paper be the emphasis, thank god MM does not seem to buy into this.
As usual Vasty we live in the same town, and i would be happy to have a chat about rugby league with you over a beer, even if you have that massive chip on your shoulder. Dont be scared.....i wont bite.
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lockers
fielden
gleeson.
those posts are crazy.
by his reckoning they should be top of the league.
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