That point is quite important.

A Latics supporting chum of mine always assures me that the constant references to the state of the DW pitch from the football media, though they are cast as anti-RL sentiment, are actually aimed at embarrassing Whelan and the football club. In other words: "Look at these bumpkins, who haven't even got their own stadium. Do they really deserve to be in the Premiership?"

Some of the things you read and hear, you really wonder whether they want Latics in the Premiership, the constant digs at them and references to bigger clubs in lower divisions. They obviously deserve to be where they are though. I mean if Liverpool lost at West Ham it would be seen as poor defeat but when they lost last night they said it was an embarrassment. Abit harsh imo. Good luck to em though despite what they think of the Warriors.

Hopefully the new pitch can give us a fast open game on friday.

www.cockneylatic.co.uk/forum/vie ... f=5&t=2804 I'm famous. Quoted by Thirtytwoyearsmufc-now-wafc One win in nearly two months and now all's well in't camp - well they're not slagging each other off anymore now! Other than the guy who took the Martinez Out banner!

www.cockneylatic.co.uk/forum/vie ... f=5&t=2804 I'm famous. Quoted by Thirtytwoyearsmufc-now-wafc One win in nearly two months and now all's well in't camp - well they're not slagging each other off anymore now! Other than the guy who took the Martinez Out banner!

Good God!! The IQ on that board is even lower than the number of wins their team has!

I wonder if the intelligent Latics fans (who I can only presume don't go on that board) are embarrassed by:

Yeah but JamesC is a to$$er, not many of the usual crew on there like him anyway.

what a bitter shower of tarts. are they still pi$$ed off at us cos Mo slagged em off in the 80s?

30 % on that board weren't born in the 80's & another 30% were too young to read.

Dont be fooled into thinking that those idiots are proper latics fans and those are the general views of all Latics fans. Vast majority of proper fans wouldnt even dream of going on there. Every Latics fan i know is embarrassed by that site and by some of their fans.

He sits behind me. Went very quiet after kick off.

Some of the posts on that site are the funniest things I've read in a long time.









Some of these are great post. I didn't think humor existed below 80 IQ.

You read quotes like those, and the mind boggles that some rugby fans still defend them.

Defend what?

Now let's see - people who live in Belgium.

Who do you think?

I'm not sure who/what "them" is/are, hence why I asked the question. Should be pretty easy for you to qualify.

Well, let me answer by way of asking you a few questions.

Is it or is it not true that Wigan RL fans have occasionally (more than occasionally in actual fact) been attacked or scoffed at in their own town by other so-called Wiganers?

Is it or is it not true that Cockney Latic regularly features posts from people who do nothing but slag Wigan RL off?

Is it or is it not true that the 'Latics Fanatic' rag-mag once defined itself by making non-stop verbal attacks on Wigan RL, Wigan RL players and Wigan RL fans?

Is it or is it not true that Latics fans in general have devised certain derogatory terms for local RL fans, which have now almot passed into local parlance ‘egg-chasers’, ‘fat inbreds’ etc?

Is it or is it not true that Latics fans regularly used to spend all day sabotaging Wigan RL fan websites until technology overtook them?

Is it or is it not true that Latics fans have for years deluged the local press with anti-Wigan correspondence (until the local press finally decided that enough was enough and stopped printing them - though, to be fair, I wouldn't expect you to know that latter detail).

Is it or is it not true that Latics fans have made repeated calls for Wigan RL to be thrown out of their own stadium?

And in the light of all that, don't you think it highly unlikely that this ongoing progrramme of anti-Wigan RL acitivity might be a bit much for 'just a handful of unrepresentative trouble-makers'?

I appreciate that you support Wigan Athletic, but you also claim to support Wigan RL. When the sort of anti-RL e that I'm responding to gets posted on this forum, it genuinely surprises that you never appear to at least sympathise with those Wigan fans who are irritated by it.

Perhaps we should all just shut up and pretend it isn't happening, eh? Keep our gobs shut on our own message board?

Couldn't you just have said the "Latics knuckle dragging feckw[ii[/its"? I haven't seen one person on here defend "them".

I didn't realised how important my support, for those irritated by the uneducated ramblings of brain dead Latics supporters, was to you. You only needed to ask.

Yes - Always has been an 'interesting' forum.
Wonder if the people running it still have their old PARROT PHOTOS

The usual glib response, I see.

Okay, we'll cut it there while we're not making any ground.

Suffice to say this, I don't personally go on Latics sites to wind people up. I'm not interested in Latics. Whether they win or lose is irrelevant to me. But quite a few Wigan fans have been well cheesed off in recent years with the non-stop abuse they and their club have suffered in their own town because of Wigan Athletic's presence. That may not be important to you, but maybe it should be. It's probably a key reason why Wigan Athletic will never have full support in Wigan and may well, in due course, dwindle to insignificance again.

Not glib, just to the point which is something you might want to consider.

So just to clarify, as you seem to be dodging the response with the usual War and Peace post now someone has asked you to clarify. Who on here has defended whom? Short to the point answer would be great - thanks.

Well they're doing a good job of hiding the fact. I haven't seen one post that even borders on anything close to criticising it. They're obviously just as happy as JamesC to be seen as 'knuckle dragging s' to quote a more reasoned Latic supporter



For my own part I have no interest in the Latics as a sporting club which, in some respects, is a shame as I am a general 'sports fan' and exactly the sort of person this club and it's JamesC-like supporters are doing a good job of alienating rather than attracting. My uncle and grandad are/were supporters from the days in the lower leagues though and, I have to say, for those type of supporters I feel sorry that this animosity exists. C'est la vie I suppose.

Bondi Warrior - who seems like his heart is in the right place, I have to say - made a clear statement that the "vast majority of Latics fans" do not support the handful of idiots who routinely abuse Wigan RL. My experience is that it's a lot more than a handful of idiots, and that the vast majority of Latics fans (who I have met) are pretty negative towards Wigan RL.

He was therefore, whether intentionally or not, defending a significant number of those responsible for giving our club and fans a hard time.

Now that I've answered your question, perhaps you can answer at least one of the questions I put to you? Let's start with: Should we on this message board just shut up and say nothing in response to the abuse we get on other message boards? And, in repying, try to see the bigger picture and forget that you're a Latics fan who finds this animosity uncomfortable.

I have to say that is one of the most bizarre, tenuous of links I think I've ever read on here.

Not that I need to defend what he said but to quote him in full so it's not taken out of context, then twisted to the extreme with a lot of poetic licence thrown in for good measure, he said:



and your particular take on this is:



Seriously, is that the best you can do?



No I don't think people should shut up and say nothing.

I'm a Wigan RL fan as well as a Latics fan and I don't find the animosity uncomfortable, I find the whole victim complex on both sides incredibly sad and immature. However at the same time if people make ludicrous statements like:



I'll call them out and let them dig a huge hole for themselves, to prove to everyone else they were talking bollox.

I can see that it's important to you to keep this pinned down to what's actually been said on this particular thread. That allows you to talk about tenuous links, etc. But the problem's a lot wider than that, as you're well aware even if you pesist in refusing to admit it.

But we're talking round in circles here.

I feel aggrieved when I see or hear Wigan RL being slated by Wigan folk who follow Latics. You apparently don't. I'm frustrated to then hear Wigan RL fans making excuses for them, or even being understanding about it. You apparently aren't.

That's fine. You won't change me, and I clearly won't change you.

But it isn't just a few knuckle-draggers, as I suspect you know. (I notice this is an accusation I've made that you've studiously avoided commentng on).

Anyway, now that I've got your permission, I'll keep posting my views regarding this matter. But not today. It's all been said now, and it's getting boring.

bit of banter between fans is nothin to worry about. i've got plenty mates who follow latics. they give me a bit of stick and i give a bit back, but at the end of the day i don't give much of a toss about latics, and they don't give much of a toss about us, any pi$$ takin is just a laugh. when it gets as bitter and hateful as the guys on there and a few people on here, then it's just sad really. they have a relegation battle to worry about, and we have a team that looks like it has the potential to win something for the first time in years. we should both have better things to talk about than how mean the and nasty the other side are and quoting idiots off each others boards

TBH i probably do defend them, but the its more to with the fact that i cant be bothered with these arguments between our clubs and i defend my mates who are latics fans, as they are decent fans and i genuinely feel sorry for them. Even they believe this allienating of fans is damaging their club. I just dont like to rise to those type of idiots you see on that forum, i just get a good laugh out of some of the comments, it can be quite entertaining.

I must admit that bar the odd comments when wearing my Wigan Jersey and listening to thse idoits online i really havent seen much else. So i may be wrong when i say its a minority and judging by some peoples experiences on here im probably oblivious to alot of it (thats what 2 years away can do to you, lol). I will defend my friends as i know they are proper sporting fans, but thats about it. I dont think its fair to generalise all fans of a club, as even we have our fair share of idiots (albeit a minority in my experience).