That's nothing. Our "own" jonh is faster than that.

Correct, whats the problem with that?

I have several district records, Yorkshire Caps and HMC titles to prove it from my days as an athlete with Wakefield Harriers. Also clocked the time in the P.E. Practical for A level. Was only 9 stone back then, so much less of me to shift at the time.

I was by far the fastest player at my pro club, which is why i was signed, as i can assure you it was not for my powerful line busting runs and offloads.

Dont assume everyone was the fat kid to get picked at school.

That was prior to meeting your good mates Bud & Stella.

And the rest of the motley crew!

You have now posted that TWICE. It wasn't funny the first time, now take your 12 fingers back over to the Wire board.

Sam Tomkins is bringing the swerve back! It can be a very useful skill to break the line or beat a defender.

The best players are those who combine swerve with change of pace. It completely flummoxes front-on defenders. Darren Albert had a pretty good swerve, but modest change of pace. That, and a lack of ... I don't know ... confidence ... ego ... whatever, meant he didn't realise his full potential (although, he is one of the very few speedsters I've seen who had no weaknesses in his game - attack and defence - at all).

Offiah and Preston both had an excellent swerve and change of pace. Additionally, Offiah could step whereas Preston could not.

Other players who had an excellent swerve and change of pace: Davies, Drummond, Ledger, Slater & Minichiello (perhaps there's an argument that these skills are a pre-requisite for full-back).

This is crucial, but for some reason rarely coached, i have no idea why not.

A speedster from the past.............just been speaking with my Dad.

He says that Jack Hilton,ex-Wigan winger and who was later a Wigan director, could 'shift a bit' as well.

oi dont dis the worlds best prop

They are coached - at least by some. But I think you need a certain kind of personality to apply these skills regularly. Generally speaking it's those who have a bit of an ego that have a crack at an opponent in such fashion. And you have to remember that kids are under enormous pressure not to make mistakes when they graduate to the first team. If they apply either or both (often high-risk maneuvers) and feck up it could mean being dropped back into the reserves. And you don't get too many return tickets from there. So kids tend to play it 'safe'. After two or three years of playing it safe (in order to secure a jersey and a contract) many kids simply forget these moves entirely.

it has been hard of late to distinguish between which club has the most backwards fans, its still a close call between Wire and Salford, but many more comments like this and you may well tip the scales in the wolves favour. On the plus side it may well mean you finally walk away with a title in 09. Most backward chav moron fans 2009.....year of the wolf.

Trust me change of pace and clicking through the gears in a short space of time is something i have rarely seen coached in league, and as much as it will rile a few, every union club i played at, at least recognised the importance of it.

so you lot didnt brand him the worlds best prop when you signed him then?

No problem at all what's your worry?

Quite ironic really. My game was based on the ability to burst through the line and offload.

Maybe explains our differences on here

So did mine at amateur, when i bulked up and moved into the centres/pack.

Ok so maybe we are still looking for an explanation for our differences on here

Hmmm....

quickest player youve ever had is fielden .
never seen someone run as fast
especially when morleys running at him to get out of the way.


3 times now.

He outran Morley? Dear me, my nan's faster then Fielden!

quickest player youve ever had is fielden .
never seen someone run as fast
especially when morleys running at him to get out of the way.


4 times now my friend.

He just outran him again in the past 10 minutes?