Graham- class forward

McGuire-Average

Gidley-Class in superleague, was washed up in Australia

Burrow-Average

Pryce-Average

Long-has been class and will go down as a modern great(as much as it hurts to say).

Average league with a smattering of quality players in it.

Out of interest who do you think is the best scrum half in superleague? IMO it's Michael Dobson who struggled to hold down a regular place in an NRL side..............go and figure that one out.

Thanks for the laugh guys and gals. Too many posts to respond to.


Bye


I quite agree, Wigan are boring but that comes from the coach.



Wigan have been crap for years. It didnt happen suddenly its like a slow painful death that the rest of super league enjoy.


Expect another on the turnstyle at leigh then


You fibber - you do want us to let you win everything admit it.

Even if they took the cap away now Hull KR, Leeds and the Wire to name 3 have far more financial muscle than Wigan now.

And if the stadium dodgers like ourselves ever do get a new ground to boost our earnings where would that leave wigan?

The cap is a good thing for wigan, it will allow you to continue to compete when you sort out your coach, current bulk buying of the cheap and mediocre/aging "stars" and continue to promote from within with a sprinkling of world class talent.

Wigan have arguably the best patch for new players.

But can you wait 4 or 5 years?

Graham: Nothing more than a cart-horse. No speed or skill.
McGuire: What does he create? He's a finisher, thats about it.
Gidley: Another ex-Aussie. Yes he has skill, does he create anything spontaneous or just do a centre's job?
Burrows: Just small...? What did he do in the WC? Speed is his only adv.
Long: What a joke, scrum halves of old would laugh at him. On the same level as Lam, Robbie Paul, Brett Kenny, Shaun Edwards? I think not.
Pryce: Doesnt have a position. Says it all. He has a good sidestep. Can't kick, can't tackle. Crap against Aussies. Yes - superb player.

Its opinions like yours that cause us to celebrate mediocrity.

behave yourself mate! graham is one of best props you've ever seen? how long have you been watching rugby? as for the others being amongst the games all time greats, didn't you watch the world cup last year?

if i were you i'd concentrate on keeping your place in super league. following the stories of financiasl problems and john kear's comments this week i'd be getting ready for life outside SL.

This thread wouldn't exist if Wigan were near the top end of the table.

Most pathetic analysis ever.

Funny how the Long and Pryce combination was employed once against the Aussies and took them apart in there own back yard. Long is a modern day great and Gidley is one of the most skilful and smart rugby league players you will ever wish to see.

Scouser on this forum


ergo ignore.

two of the best international bottlers i've ever seen. how did leon go in world cup last year?

Well done, you have named 6 players in the best two teams in the league. Six ffs

Oh, the the oft trotted out lines about arrogance. Surprised you didn't mention the Wigan walk, salary cap, or Maurice Lindsay



And it's Burrow by the way, not bloody Burrows. Jeez, are you Jonathan Davies?

This thread is about RL being currently boring at SL level.

If the game has moved on so much since the eighties, how come the current UK superstars you mention above are seen as a joke by the Aussies and were recently taken to the cleaners by them?

and the kiwis and very nearly by PNG

Gidley was struggling in the NRL before he came here but because this leagues average he has settled in nicely.

Long is a modern day great as i've already posted but Pryce is nothing more then a fancy dan runner that goes missing when the big games come around.

Super League is at it's poorest ever point imo but Saints fans won't admit it until they're on the way down and the smaller clubs won't admit it whilst they're getting a few more wins then before yet bog all to show for it.

It will get better though imo aslong as clubs stick to the quota rules and get plenty of yongsters through their systems...........something that Wigan, Saints, Leeds, Cas etc can't be accused of not doing.

Although I would prefer Wakey to be where you are, well done on KR for rocking the established order. If Wigan fans are leaving Super League in droves, perhaps the loyal part of the badge should be deleted. The rest of rugby league at the end of the eighties and early nineties was dire, because it was filled by part-time players. It is the best it is has ever been at the moment. I don't hear the same rumblings from other clubs.

No problem with the Wigan club as an organisation, and a big nod to the genuine fans. Unfortunately, many of the fans are being exposed for what they are, glory hunters, who aren't prepared to see out the thin in readiness for the thick, and who don't realise that rugby league happens outside of the Wigan town boundaries.

...........and there's me thinking this was a Wigan forum.

This.

I think the standard is poor at the minute but would never ever stop watching the sport.

It's still the greatest sport on earth yet could be so much better(over here).

Like i say if clubs stick to the quota rules and get plenty of youngsters through it'll improve but belive me it has to.

Patronising drivel


Reality is Wigan are pegged back as a club due to the CC.


It's unnatural and pathetic (and more likely than not illegal).

Take it away and we will see how the "natural order" of RL pans out.


All this BS about a "level playing field" and "how good it is to see a "competitive" competition" is cringeworthy.


The sooner this sport realises that there are big clubs, small clubs, and clubs in the middle, the sooner we can improve the product on the field.

droves? where have you got that from?




even though leeds had full time players before us and a number of our players remained part time.


warrington, bradford, hull....

Name me a better prop than Graham in the British game. Peacock comes nearest, but as he does't play for you, I expect he doesn't count. Compare to the NRL by all means, but Wigan's one good period of history, upon which all of this support is based, is based upon British victories against part-time players when the most important asset was a cheque book.

You are an idiot. Stop thinking this thread is about Wigan. It is about SL on the whole.

You talk so much I wouldn't even know where to begin

Your dwindling attendance figures and your fans complaints that things are rubbish. It is also interesting that you quote so-called former great-but-struggling clubs as support for other fans being hacked off.

Dwindling attendances?

Down by about the same amount Wakey, Quins, Salford ect get at a home game each week which is chicken feed

Just been watching videos of old Wigan tries on youtube and it makes me sad to think how goo we were back then and how poor we are now. What the videos also showed was how much more individual skill there was knocking around back then. Certain plavers with pace, some with pinpoint passing accuracy and others with the sheer strength. Hardly anything like that nowdays, Rugby League is lacking indivisualism and teamwork going hand in hand.