Quote ="wireontour"He won't be playing for Wigan thats for sure ! viewtopic.php?t=410925 '" Sam is playing for Wigan at Warrington this weekend.

Quote ="wireontour"He won't be playing for Wigan thats for sure ! viewtopic.php?t=410925 '" Sam is playing for Wigan at Warrington this weekend.

what train do i need to get for warrington??

Ask Sam

He can't afford a car?

Jinkin Jimmy posted on here ages ago Higham was on £70K and that the info came from Millward himself.

If Higham was on a fortune why, when Higham, Calderwood and Barrett all left were the only senior players recruited were Robert and Riddell?

Now granted we gave some of the junior player a pay rise but if those three were on the fortunes some would have us believe we could have done that AND signed either more seasoned pros or a the odd genuine super star. We did neither so something doesn't add up.

Either these players were not on the money people think or we spent it Roberts, Riddell and the young players.



Seasoned NRL pros don't come over here for three years for peanuts. He will IMO be on a fair old whack and I'd guess more than the £70K suggested for Higham.

Dave

Nobody knows for sure though do they?

IMO Highams former deal and Riddells current deal won't be miles apart but i could be totally wrong.

As for abilities i likes Higham yet he did have his flaws but so does Riddell. I never totally went along with this idea that he couldn't pass from dummy half as sometimes it could be pretty good and again Riddell's isn't the greatest from what we've seen so far.

I do however believe Riddell will improve and thats all we can really concentrate on because he's here and Higham not.

Don't forget that Pryce started to count on the cap too.

Word on the street is that Hansen is back in this week.

and we've signed Gleeson who'll be on alot more then Mathers was on.

Should be in for some even harder hitting in defense then

He should be at the expense of Joel Tomkins if everyone is fit although i get the feeling we may be missing a couple through injury after that bruiser last week.

does anyone know sams preferred position. we know he will play anywhere to get in the team but the only time i spoke to him which was last season he said he wanted to be a scrum half not a stand off.
as for smith taking his place i would not let smith in wigan never mind in the team.

So Pryce, Riddell and Roberts plus some pay rises for the younger players took up the fortune we are supposed to have paid Barrett, Higham and Calders? People suggest these three were all on mega bucks but the quality of the recruits since they left suggests otherwise to me.

Unless of course we are paying too much for those three "new" players.

Dave

Gleeson?

So we have to use up all the cap space of the players that left? Or maybe we've got some slack to use if/when the right player becomes available?

Gleeson

No, he's just getting what we paid Mathers - that's how it works don't you know.

There may also be some payments made to cover the termination of Barretts contract.

IIRC any termination payments get included in the salary cap calculation.

I doubt it. He left us and we will have paid his contract up until he left.

It Did!

We negotiated a "Back Heavy" contract meaning he got most of his money in year 3.
Wigan were happy to do this as they were struggling with the cap in year 1&2 of his contract.

for example - instead of getting 150k x 3 years

He got 100k - 100k - 200k

When the decision was made to leave after 2 years he (Rightly IMO) should have had 2/3rds of his money paid to him when he in fact had been paid less than half of his 2 year wage.

This meant instead of having paid him 300k for 2 years we had paid him only 200k.

This meant that we had to pay him the extra 100k this year.

PS

The numbers I have quoted above are only Hypothetical but I do know that it is quite a substantial amount "Hung Over" that we have had to pay him.

As I heard it he had a three year deal with some sort of bonus attached to it on completion. He did not complete the full three year term, but a settlement may have been made to cover part of the payment.

It's pure speculation BTW, but quite believable.

I love they way people on here think they know how much these players earn. Not one person on here knows how much the players are on its all just pure speculation.

Personally i find it unbelievable, but can see it happening. Only in our sport can a player enter into a 3 year contract decide after 2 he had had enough and walk way expecting further payment, not only that it is also the second time he has done it. Were it the club wanting shut then fair enough but given it is the player that is a very different story.

The clubs must be carzy for leaving themselves as open to this.

Jukesays was using the figures for illustration purposes. I had heard a similar story in that we had to pay Barrett a "completion" payment at the end of his contract.

All we are saying is that this "payment" would have to be included in the salary cap.

Remember Luke Davico.
He never played a Suerleage game for Wigan, but we had his wages count on the cap for that season. Slightly different scenario I agree.

If ever I've quoted a figure for soemone's earnings it is because I got the info directly from the person who signed them. That, my friend, is a fact, not speculation.