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| Quote ="RB"Did Winterstein ever play first grade NRL?'"
May be wrong but i do not think so, he was on the books at the Bulldogs played a trial game this year, and played for the Aussie Schoolboys. He is the kind of player Trinity seem to dig out from below the surface but who have a cracking pedigree and go very well for them.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"and supposedly if a player plays x amount of games in the 1st team their contract has to be reviewed. Could this also be a factor?'"
Heard similar, as soon as Ainscough plays over certain amount of games, Wigan have to start paying him more, and we cannot afford to under the cap.
Maybe wrong, but what i heard.
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| Quote ="{Hogan}"Heard similar, as soon as Ainscough plays over certain amount of games, Wigan have to start paying him more, and we cannot afford to under the cap.
Maybe wrong, but what i heard.'"
I have seen this happen in the past at clubs i have played at, ie play 10 games and get a bonus, which ensured some very good young players only played 9 games and then were held back and eventually dropped down the leagues. Its a really bad practice if it is still going on.
I would hope the current management would not follow this practice, it basically holds back "bolters" like Sam Tomkins and Ainscough. A player should be paid what they are worth and Stevie Wonder could see these 2 lads were going to get significant game time this year.
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| Quote ="{Hogan}"Heard similar, as soon as Ainscough plays over certain amount of games, Wigan have to start paying him more, and we cannot afford to under the cap.
Maybe wrong, but what i heard.'"
Heard exactly the same on Tuesday night at Pats.
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| Quote ="jonh"I have seen this happen in the past at clubs i have played at, ie play 10 games and get a bonus, which ensured some very good young players only played 9 games and then were held back and eventually dropped down the leagues. Its a really bad practice if it is still going on.
I would hope the current management would not follow this practice, it basically holds back "bolters" like Sam Tomkins and Ainscough. A player should be paid what they are worth and Stevie Wonder could see these 2 lads were going to get significant game time this year.'"
Ainscough as played 9 SL games. So that makes perfect sense.
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| Looking at the problems Trinity have on the Wing were I Noble i would have been very tempted to play Ainscough as he could have another field day.
Of there front line wingmen, Blanch, Murphy, George and Gleeson are all missing, Grix has been very poor on the wing but is there only option and they are maybe looking at Pieterson who has been out for an age, and is only just back.
Taking nothing away from Roberts display last week, if we have one player who is going to expose a ring rusty or inexperienced wing playing out of position it is Ainscough, with his agility and pace.
Would have been a big call but thinking about it maybe it would have been justified.
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| Quote ="RB"Did Winterstein ever play first grade NRL?'"
Yes 5 games last season.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Yes 5 games last season.'"
I stand corrected.
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| Quote ="jonh"I stand corrected.'"
No probs mate.
Now wait for some Rhinos fan to come chucking abuse -- because we signed a reserve grader from the NRL.
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| Quote ="{Hogan}"Heard similar, as soon as Ainscough plays over certain amount of games, Wigan have to start paying him more, and we cannot afford to under the cap.
Maybe wrong, but what i heard.'"
It'll be interesteing to see what happens if say Richards or Roberts picks up an injury then. K Pryce is out so we'd probably have to stick Bailey back in the centre and put Carmont onto the wing.
If something along those lines happens then there would have to be some truth in it.
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| Sean A should at least get a place on the bench but than who would you leave it, i think SA will be back for the HKR game which is nearly as important as sats game, the lad needs a break we cant afford to burn him out at such a early age.
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| Noble knows what he is doing. If Ainscough makes a mistake and gives a try away in a league game it could cost us 2points ( and he has made them if we are honest), but if he makes a mistake in a cup tie it could be the end of our cup run. Noble is playing the safer centre/wing partnership for this one but I am sure Ainscough will be back into the side soon.
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| have you heard your selfs noble picks a team he thinks can win blah blah blah was nt that couple of weeks ago when 99% wanted his head on a stick was nt that when you was all crying ainscough s name on the team sheet an for the idiot who said ainscough might make a mistake an cost us 2 points there s plenty other s in the team who can the that for us , lets see what happens if we lose some more what will it be noble sacked ainscough in ,
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| Quote ="shooter69"have you heard your selfs noble picks a team he thinks can win blah blah blah was nt that couple of weeks ago when 99% wanted his head on a stick was nt that when you was all crying ainscough s name on the team sheet an for the idiot who said ainscough might make a mistake an cost us 2 points there s plenty other s in the team who can the that for us , lets see what happens if we lose some more what will it be noble sacked ainscough in ,'"
No!
SOME PEOPLE WANTED HIS HEAD ON A STICK!
Not all of us!
And TBH it doesnt matter if someone did or didn't.
It still stands, Noble should pick the team he thinks will win that game. He will live & Die by that decision.
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| Quote ="shooter69"have you heard your selfs noble picks a team he thinks can win blah blah blah was nt that couple of weeks ago when 99% wanted his head on a stick was nt that when you was all crying ainscough s name on the team sheet an for the idiot who said ainscough might make a mistake an cost us 2 points there s plenty other s in the team who can the that for us , lets see what happens if we lose some more what will it be noble sacked ainscough in ,'"
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"There is another issue, I was speaking to a family member of a Wigan reserve player, and supposedly if a player plays x amount of games in the 1st team their contract has to be reviewed. Could this also be a factor?'"
Looking at the rule I'm pretty sure Ainscough's "salary cap value" as determined by the RFL will already have taken this into account using a defined formula.
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| Not bothered about him missing the game , just hope noble doesnt keep publicly criticisng him - Ainscough is the only player singled out for criticsm in nobs 3 years here - Fielden has never been dropped but is constantly sh*t. Ainscough has a long bright future ahead of him , unlike noble who will probably go if we lose on saturday.
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| Quote ="Broxy Music"Not bothered about him missing the game , just hope noble doesnt keep publicly criticisng him - Ainscough is the only player singled out for criticsm in nobs 3 years here - Fielden has never been dropped but is constantly sh*t. Ainscough has a long bright future ahead of him , unlike noble who will probably go if we lose on saturday.'"
Your wrong, Fielden got dropped once but refused to play for the reserves so Eamon was sacrificed IIRC.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Your wrong, Fielden got dropped once but refused to play for the reserves so Eamon was sacrificed IIRC.'"
If that's true that is shocking.
Also I'm told there's no truth re the SC and leaving Ainy out is completely tactical.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Your wrong, Fielden got dropped once but refused to play for the reserves so Eamon was sacrificed IIRC.'"
When was this?? If so noble should of told him where to go..
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| Quote ="PaulM"If that's true that is shocking.
Also I'm told there's no truth re the SC and leaving Ainy out is completely tactical.'"
well i was speaking someone at murryfield who was told by ainscough's dad that if he plays more than 10 games his money goes up
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| Quote ="Broxy Music"When was this?? If so noble should of told him where to go..'"
It was yonks ago, i think if not early last year then late the year before.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"I personally have sympathy for Noble in respect of making these decisions, it can't be easy.
He's now got tough calls all over the place. I can see his reasoning in leaving out Ainscough from the 6 outside backs but I could equally see the logic in leaving out Amos Roberts.
Mcilorum was great at the weekend, possibly his best game ever for the club. But I am also of the opinion (and I realise I may be in the minority) that Riddell has been pretty decent in the last couple of months and does the side really want to be without his experience in the pressure of a cup game? That would be a 50/50 call for me as well.
Harrison Hansen and eventually Eamonn O'Carroll will also eventually provide further competition for first team places and this is just amongst the established first teamers, some more kids in the academy I'm sure will also start to make claims as well.
It is pleasing in the sense that this is Wigan and players should have to fight tooth and nail to get their place. This hasn't been the case whatsoever in recent years.'"
you'll never please all the fans all the time.we have an opinion, and the fans will all have different ideas of whats right and wrong. makes for a good sport and good debate.
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| As much as I was pee'd of with BN for dropping SA last week I could see his reasons behind it. My big problem this week would be if he dropped Michael McIlorum for Riddell. MM took on the best 2 hookers in the league last week and was head and shoulders above both of them, the rotation with him and TL, TS and ST is working brilliantly so why change that formation just to bring in a bloke who has yet to REALLY impress this season?
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