At the time of your post it was 1912!

So you are wrong, which brings into doubt all your other Opinions!

Apart from those that i agree with of course!

That's the problem I have with your original post. They are not realistic or reasonable parallels IMO.

You have decided what the conclusion is and so construct a series of arguments from where to you start from where you want to get to. It's a bit like Chinese whispers.

The trouble is these arguments are little more than suppositions or questions you subsequently treat as a factual basis to further your advance to the conclusion you want to present.

As good an example as any is in your reply to Jonh when you said:



And maybe, just maybe, it wasn't but it won't stop you concluding it was.

Dave

There is no point speculating what ML & DW would be doing if still running the club, they are not. The only thing that counts is what IL does now he is the owner.

Off the field it's clear things are moving in the right direction (Mick Hogan etc). Playing wise including, the coach, on field and recruitment it isn't.

Dave

Well if TL is to stay at scrumhalf he isn't good enough IMHO.

If he is to play at hooker he leaves the pack underweight.

Our pack is badly short of some 'grunt' in the front row.

Tommy is one of the 'biggest' tacklers in our team, just ask mary

As do I. However your reasoning re: why he will be played at 7 next season is entirely flawed! Firstly isn't he already being used at interchange hooker despite not having a viable alternative at half (unless you count Smith's last performance), giving at least some indication that this is at least being considered as his main position. Also, as everyone, yourself included, considers Smith to be amongst the most likely to return home next season, isn't it most likely that we would be looking to replace a departing half with an incoming half, rather than some convoluted, made up reasoning of your own to argue that TL will remain at 7? After all it's not as if we haven't already made some effort to bring a SO in this season (Bird/Carney) let alone next!

Your arguments making TL's resigning to be a bad one simply don't hold water yet you argue them as if they were fact and present the signing as a negative based on nothing but flawed hypothesis! Let's put it this way, if TL weren't already signed and we anounced the signing of the World cup winning hooker for next season, would you seriously be arguing it as a backward step?

Utter boll0cks mate.

Tommy isn’t smaller than the likes of Buderus, Smith, Farrar and Isaac Luke who are all top draw hookers.

How can you say that when we've got 'Piggy' there !!!


I'll get me coat.

I have been on here about a year now and reading it for 3 years or so and thats one of the best posts ever made.

I would like to add that we should support the coach and players who are here if we like them or not, at the end of the day Noble and Fielden who have taken stick are our players so lets encourage what we have rather than wish we had what we cant.

Noble is definately Maurice Bamford!!!

How many Jimmy Berts has he signed in his time and proceeded to consistantly play when everyone else can see their failings?!?!?

Mathers, Pryce, Coley, Fielden, Withers, Millard etc!!!

I always remember a Wigan fan shouting to Bamford....'Get back to Moscow, you commie bugger'. (In reference to his resemblance to Lech Walesa)

And take Jimmy Birts back with you