Well anyone can lose their passport. It happens.

However, the club should have checks in place to minimise these eventualities. A simple "we are off to France in a couple of weeks, can you all check to see that you have a valid passport" would do.

when did the fixture list get published mate ???

a simple check of the fixtures wouldnt go amiss.

Exactly, thats why I'm not sure it's the fault of the club



I'm not sure how you can be sure they didn't do this? How do you know he didn't lose it on the way to the airport. Infact, how do we know it's been lost? Are you 100% its true clifford?

Might be something in this as Hock was not on the plane

Hock is injured.

If this is true he needs a serious kick up the backside. He is supposed to be a professional. If I missed a meeting overseas because I had lost my passport I would be disciplined.

Thick Beech hillers no matter how good at rugby should be no different.

I wonder how many fans forgot their passport?

Cheers

Hope he is fit soon we need him

Didn't Leuluai supposedly lose his passport last year, yet he played in France a couple of days later.

I am 100% sure that this has just been told word for word to me that he is not in france in the hotel with the team. I believe the poor lad has lost his passport however is this the spin doctors at work? he was not training prior to the Barrow game but resumed training prior to saints game and bloody played well

. All i know is he wont be in France this weekend and people are very ed off.

If he is injured fair enough he was limping at half time.

We are lucky that we have adequate cover in J.Tomkins but Hock always seems to have a good game against Catalans.

lets hope this is true. but he was named in the squad and the squad at check in were 1 player down .

think you might find it is bank holiday weekend

Gaz Hocks sisters post on sean ainscoughs face book page:

Kirsty Lousie Brown: did gaz make it love? mum said he couldnt find his passport the dumb ! xx18:11 · Comment · LikeUnlike

oh my god tricky

If Carmont, Hock and Richards are out.

Amos Roberts
Karl Pryce
Martin Gleeson
Darrell Goulding
Sean Ainscough
Cameron Phelps
Sam Tomkins
Paul Prescott
Mark Riddell
Andy Coley
Phil Bailey
Joel Tomkins
Sean O'loughlin

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Feka Paleaasina
Thomas Leuluai
Stuart Fielden
Harrison Hansen

I guess Tricky been on that Facebook site again

U'd play Phelps at 6 with tommy on the bench?

I'd go with

Phelps
Roberts
Gleeson
Bailey
Ainscough
S Tomkins
Leuluai
Fielden
Riddell
Coley
Hansen
J Tomkins
O'Loughlin

Feka
Prescott
Mossop
McIlorum

Phelps
Roberts Gleeson Goulding/Carmont Ainscough
Tomkins Leuluai
Coley Riddell Prescott
Bailey Tomkins
O'Loughlin

Feka Fielden Hansen McIlorum

????????????? hes not in the squad

After the wakefield game, I wouldn't have Goulding and Roberts on one side of defence. Or Goulding and Ainscough as a partnership either. Liability in defence - and one which Catalans' will look to pick apart.

I forgot about Mossop, let's see what Flanagan or Farrell can do.

If this is the case that we have had to leave for France with an 18 man squad, why are people naming their squads with all sorts of players in like Goulding, Pryce and even Mossop?
This is the 19 man squad that was due to travel:

Wigan Warriors squad

Roberts, Carmont, Smith, Leuluai, Fielden, Riddell, Paleaaesina, Hock, Bailey, O'Loughlin, J. Tomkins, Coley, Hansen, McIlorum, Prescott, Phelps, Gleeson, S. Tomkins, Ainscough

Presumably the team will have to be made up from the remaining 18 players that traveled, unless somebody could be arranged to fly out later, but I doudbt that to be honest.

Yes I would. Two players who are playing out of position and against Saints were still two of our better players. So I would like to see what they can do in their natural positions.

Thomas Leuluai played against Saints like a hooker. Instead of running out wide he took them on up the middle and caused them all sorts of problems. Just take a break he made in the first half as an example, jinking his way through the middle of the Saints pack and if he had seen Phelps on his inside we would have scored. New Zealand recognised that Leuluai was a much better player at hooker than at scrum half and from when they made that change we saw a different Leuluai and a different New Zealand team. The same applies to Wigan.

Cameron Phelps showed characteristics of a stand off on Thursday which incidentally is where the Aussies really rate him. He took the pressure of Leuluai/Tomkins with his kicks which were far more accurate and precise than Leuluai's or Tomkins in the first half. Our tactics were to kick early in the tackle count which is fine but we weren't making enough ground when we were kicking for touch. With Phelps we did and had Saints on the back foot. He also showed good support play last night which we don't have with Richards and linked up in attack a lot more. His bullet pass for Ainscough to score was fantastic and highlighted to me that this lad would/is a damn good stand off. He also made some cracking offloads in the first half on his kick returns, spinning in the tackle and allowing us to make breaks and confuse the Saints defence. Okay he was hit and miss fielding high kicks - the one which led to Pryce's try but that again further highlights to me why he is more suited to six rather than centre, fullback or wing. Yes he can play all them positions but IMO he is better at six. Also moving Phelps to six will allow Tomkins to play in his preferred position at scrum half. We would see a much better Sam Tomkins if he was played at scrum half.