Is it me or does Amos look uninterested. He cant be knackered

How many times have we knocked on tonight, its pathetic

and been outjumped a few times tonight

I'm glad someone else is seein it also? Why are we still doing it? So obvious it's not working so lets change it!!

Some will feel i'm banging Noble and not the players but;

We are applying a bad defensive structure
Feka has shown what he can do against tired defenders(impact player Nobby take note)
Hansen is cutting down Burrows time when he's near him

All could have been implemented from the start of the game......

one of those nights. the bounce of the ball for the 40-20's, the little decisions, their second try looked like a knock on, not checked, first try a forward pass, not seen, these things balance out but its made for a miserable night. and lets be honest, we weren't good enough. these decisions just make it a little harder to swallow

Agreed

And the sheep turn into scousers!!!

Not famous? Were not famous you have to sing about it!!

Oh aye...but for the video ref you'd have won the game!

have to disagree with you there, but thanks for the support

Vast majority of team are same IMO. Only 1 or 2 players that can hold thier head up and say they had a good game.

plain and simple. It's irrespective to whether the 40/20 happened and the two calls which you feel were incorrect. Wigan are simply not good enough to beat a quality team that has JJB named as the hooker and with a bench made up of players carrying knocks or coming back from a lengthy period out of the game.

I wasnt saying that

I meant that Leeds' wouldnt of scored that try if the video ref had given us the try

lets face it we as e no other way to put it no point saying we've not had run of the green etc we are e last weekend proved how bad bradford are not how good we were. Get rid of half the team and all the coaching staff the start again cos this lot would struggle against toulouse

the doom and gloomers have arrived

bailey, smith, coley, mathers for starters


easy tiger

Another thing, why was Coley smiling....he has nothing to smile about, we've just been beat, heavily

what you mean doom and gloomers have arrived what positives could any wigan fan take from that. There's no positives back to old ways again

Leeds have a very, very good team. Yeah, we contributed to our own downfall by knocking on every 2 mins, but if those two 40/20's had of come off for Leeds it could of been a different scoreline. They scored off both of them and our heads went down.

A positive would be the response we gave after the half time interval. We came out fired up and matched Leeds. We had 2 try's disallowed, which on another day could of gone for us.

Let me guess. It was Noble's fault the players knocked on, missed the tackles, etc.

Spot on.

Ifs and buts if we had a quality side we may of given them a game, but we've not.
Thought that was all part of the game to try and get 40/20's so you can score off them. 2 tries disallowed because they wasn't tries end of story if they where tries the would of been given and seeing as they wasn't means they weren't legitimate tries.
We were/are a mediocre team and until something is changed from the top down to the playing staff we always will be a nearly but not quite team.

It is ifs and buts but as lothlorian said, we were very unlucky with some calls etc. Leeds got the momentum after the two 40/20's and took us apart, our head's went down and we conceded too many errors on the back of that.

As for getting rid of the playing staff, you are a moron. We have a young squad that can only improve

Not sure i'd agree about the 2nd "no try". Fair enough he was in the way but he doesn't have an obligation to move and i dont feel he purposely put himself there to block the defender. Not that it would have made much impact on the result. You were well an truly outclassed tonight.

Leeds came out and caught us on the back foot imediately with 40-20, we made some silly errors and our forwards couldnt match theirs, which in turn makes it a hard job far our halfes. We did well to come out up for it in the second half and unlucky to have try's disallowed, which would have got us back in it. Hat's off to leeds they were superb, but dont slag off wigan for playing with a bit of passion and trying to put right the mistakes. any team was gonna get mullered at headingly tonight.

We didn't get the ball in Leeds' half until about 30 mins in. You can't score points if you can't keep hold of the ball and make the yards.