As a Hull fan who was naturally there. You could easilyhave scored 5 tries tonight but for some great scrambling defence on our part. Your main concern should be fitness Your pack especially tired in the last quarter. Where as ours grow in stature.

Not trolling, just an honest opinion.

All in all for a first hit up of the season, very enjoyable game.

Thought you might have brought a few more fans with you though.

Enjoy the season, I am sure it won't be all doom and gloom for you.

Hop on soldier. We're going to war!

Yeah why not..........Noble out

Any more room?

Space for 1 up top

You're all Category 3 fans so your opinions are invalid!!

On a serious note, I thought Tim Smith was excellent tonight and we weren't all that bad. The sad thing is that Hull were there for the taking and we bottled it again i.e. Goulding messing up when it looked easier to score. Fans are getting restless, defeat next Friday and Noble will be gone IMO.

Good gracious.......Noble rule ok. Sorry Puffers

Never doubted him!!!!!!

I still think our glorious leader knows better, or is that the problem!!!


Oh stuff it.........Noble out

count me on board then.....

Your best tackler starts on the bench. Harrison Hansen.

Yes he was top tackler in super league last season

Smith was probably our MOM. Goulding could have scored twice but the fact that he weighs about 3 stone meant he got polaxed twice.

Both defences were on top for most of the game. We scored off 2 kicks (no surprise there). Amos had a good (half game) at fullback. Fielden was good in stints too.

Shame we didn't see the 'razzle-dazzle'. Even when 8 points down there was only Hock who actually bothered trying to offload.

That take by O'Loughlin was quality.

I know that's why I said "your best tackler".

I'll give you an opinion after the Cas game. God knows what category of fan I am but I wasn't there tonight so have no idea how they played compared to last week. What I do know is they lost and losing your two opening games isn't really good enough.

Dave

Lets face it boys & girls, we might hear we were out enthused, we disrespected the game, we didn't complete our sets, they where up for it that little bit more, the season isn't won in feb. Blah, Blah, Blah. The fact is to lose to a poor Hull side and a shocking Wakey side, we are in the e. Riddell (injury or not) is e, Phelps has not kicked on at all, & would the real Tim Smith please stand up. We still don't have that plan B when our predictable plan A does wrong.

I don't know if we have the answers at this point in time, I am that depressed it is frightening. This e needs sorting out & quick if we lose 2 cas next week we might be looking at a bad, bad season. We either get S. Tomkins in to see what he can do or we get someone else in because, we are not creating or finishing enough chances and why the fook can't we keep hold of the fooking ball, this is really e, e, e, e!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If he is deemed all washed up as Wigan coach what is the point in keeping him?

Give the job to Wane on a temporary basis.

The devil you know may do more damage by being kept on.

Dave

A few things:

I don't think we were 'out-enthused' tonight.
The Hull side wasn't poor.
Phelps went off injured after about 20 (30?) minutes. O'Loughlin/Tomkins had to play centre.
Tim Smith was our MOM tonight.

You are a Category 4 fan at least.

a poor hull fc team that beat an equally poor if not worse overseas filled less than average team!!

The Hull side is poor, Noble will say "we were out enthused", I am aware that Phelps pulled up after 20+ minutes with what looks like a hamstring, as for Smith he might have been one of our best players but he drifts in and out of the game far too much, Smiths problem is that he is 2 steps ahead of the other losers in the team.

Where there many rumours pre season? Beyond those on here not liking Noble?

We need to give him 10-15 games. It is madness to judge a coach 3 games into a season.

Yes, there seems to be no improvement from last, but I fail to see who we can appoint after 3 games who is available who would change anything, given we don't have a stand off and are a centre short of being anything like.

Indeed, at least tonight it looked like the players cared. A bit



Not quite panic stations [ijust[/i yet, but if I was in Nobby's shoes I'd be getting a bit twitchy. I've been pro-Noble from day 1, but tonight for the the first time, I walked off the ground wondering if he really is the the man for Wigan. Losing against Cas is not an option now, under any circumstances...

That's probably spot on actually. A decent side would have beaten Hull tonight, unfortunately Wigan aren't a decent side.

btw thats twice now a poor hull team as beat you at the kc two seasons running



i think your sig should sums you up perfect, just exchange saints to your name

Last year you where just lucky (and then finished 11th / below Rovers ouch!!!), this year you beat us we are shocking at the moment & YOU ARE POOR!!!!! & guest what you will finish behind Rovers again.

Bless.

People are starting to judge him on far more than 15 games. They are starting to judge him on 2007, 2008 [iand [/ithe games we play this season. The fact we have played only two so far is not seen as relevant to the bigger picture of how the team plays under him which by and large is poorly.



Wakefield were short of a lot of first team regulars so I don't think is any excuse and part of the problem is how Noble is dealing with the half backs. It seem obvious to me now that it should be Smith at 7, Tomkins at 6 and TL as a 9.

If it doesn't work, it doesn't work but he would have far more support from the fans if he did that than picked the team as he has done so far. He is part of the problem.

Dave