Quite.

Now if he keeps picking the same squad and we keep getting performances like we did on Sunday, THEN I think we'd need to question why nothing was changing.

Although if the Noble philosophy was true that early season matches are not important then this would be the best time to make changes



I do not agree with this but I am trying to apply logic to Noble's Law Of RL

You think he uses logic??

No

There is enough quality in the team to win against Hull - although it is a shame not to see sam in the team.

I've not seen how well sam plays in defence but I'm wondering whether Noble thinks having Sam and Tim at 6&7 will prove too much of a weakness in defence? People who watch the reserves will have a better idea than me on this.

The big thing for me is whether we work as a team, improve ball control and work harder off the ball with more options from dummy half. If we do that we will have a chance regardless of a couple of contentious selections.

However I will be suprised if both O'Carroll and Prescott aren't in the team at the expense of Coley.

Noble does also have to sort out the replacement hooker role - moving Sean to SO is not a solution for the rest of the season.

Roberts
Phelps
Goulding
Carmont
Richards
Smith
Leuluai
Fielden
Riddell
Paleaaesina
Hock
Bailey
O'Loughlin

J. Tomkins
Hansen
McIlorum
O'Carroll


Coley has to be dropped a message has to be sent out letting players know performances that shocking are not allowed. Neeeeeeeeeeed McIlorum on the bench that stupid music chairs they did against an under strength wakefield side proved to be a thorn in the side.

Some may even say we should of kept Calderwood if he has a good game and Roberts doesnt. You heard it here first

but I will not be one of them after the game if that does happen.

I would love to get Brian Noble and you together and ask him if he really thinks early season matches are not important. My guess is hes never said that but youve twisted his words. I would hazard a guess that hes said something along the lines of 'early season form is not as important as end of season form'. He has stated time and time again that the start of the season is more about grinding out wins and picking up as many points as you can ready for your end of season charge into the play offs. I agree with him,what is the point of peaking at the start of the season and fading when play off time comes around.

If Brian Noble ever stated that early season matches are not important then id be very very suprised.

McIlorum included in the squad that's a good sign. Hopefully he will see sense and play with 2 hookers in the side.

Coley should be dropped IMO but I'm unsure on Prescott's fitness. I'm not convinced he's 100% he had some back problem a while back IIRC?

Other than that I'm quite happy TBH

McIllorum & Prescott in.

Coley & Bailey out.

Re Tomkins, If after ten rounds he is nowhere near the first team, and hasnt had a look in, then questions need to be asked.

I suppose Noble is giving them a chance to redeem themselves, if we falter again, we should look for more changes against Cas next Friday.

That is much closer to what he actually said. Methinks Charlie is doing a little fishing again.

I don't understand all the knocking of Coley. Go and look on the Super League website's stats for last season. You'll see he actually made more metres than Fielden and more tackles than Feka.

It's the number of errors, missed tackles and penalties that lets him down.

Even Rogues is becoming negative.

You need to peak twice in the season. In between you ned to be playing well enough to be able to gain points and build up a contingency (sound a bit like Noble using such words) however, BN does not care about the start of a season



Worryingly he believes Wigan were too elaborate



St Pats U8's are more elaborate than Noble's Wigan

To Mr Noble, do the decent thing and walk away

EXIT

Still think Sam Tomkins should be playing instead of the shambles that is Tim Smith. Hansen should start considering he got the most tackles in SL last year and is one of the best defensive players in the league.

seems to me that Noble won't play Sam Tomkins because everyone on here wants him too .... perhaps we should start a raft of threads pleading with Noble NOT to play him and then he might get into the 17 ...

or not ...

exactly......change half your team when you replace one player.....good work nobby.

On the positive side we'll get thumped again and then the writing will really be on the wall for our inspirational, tactical coach!

But apart from that.........................

You can make more tackles then a fella who struggles to be on the pitch for half the game. He has to make more metres with all the penalties and knock ons he does..it doesn't show how many sodding metres he's just handed to the opposition, i bet it would be enough to negate his lead on Fielden's metre gains.

Suppose that's possible. I still don't reckon he's much worse than Fielden though. But on the other hand... Prescott or O'Carroll would be preferable.

Also the whole Sam Tomkins argument. He surely should be playing in games like Wakey and Cas but I suppose Hull is a game more experienced players should be in, however, I think that if Nobby moved Tommy to Hooker, Smith to Scrum Half not stand off (he's not a stand off) and then dropped Tomkins in to Stand off for maybe the Cas game I'm sure we'll see a marked improvement.

I don't doubt someone has already said this. Ha...

oh and obviously move Lockers to 2nd row and bring Joel Tomkins into Loose Forward.

i've got you lot down for a win, you are a game ahead in terms of sharpness and will be hurting after being beaten by the mighty trin. plus big pat is a much better option at full back imo

have faith

The alarm bells will start ring if that happens, 2 losses were we expected to be win both, have faith its only Cas next

1. Richards
2. Roberts
3. Goulding
4. Carmont
5. Phelps
6. Smith
7. Leuluai
8. Fielden
9. Riddell
10. Prescott
11. Hansen
12. Bailey
13. O' loughlin

14. Tomkins
15. Hock
16. Feka
17. Mcillorum.

o' carroll & Coley to miss out.

Still no Pryce or S. Tomkins???? And no plan B on the bench if it all goes wrong.

Why no O'Carroll? He was one of our best players on Sunday.