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| Quote ="MattyB"Don't think there has ever been another time when the town has been so divided.
This is one reason why the football will struggle to increase attendances.
Only 21K against Liverpool the other night (with over 5,000 Liverpool fans)....tut tut.'"
Whelan is the cause behind it all. Without Whelan I wouldn't mind Latics, still wouldn't support them though.
I fully expect the divide to grow until it reaches boiling point.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Coverage has absolutely nothing to do with it. Our crowds went up by a load in about 10 years because we went from nothing to something, so have the Latics, yet for the insecure that's something to criticise them about.'"
I have evidence to back you up there, due to a recent University coursework piece.
I did a study on the JJB and found that although on average Latics had the higher growth in attendances since the JJB opened, Wigan RL still have the average higher attendances. Predictably Latics attendances grew in the 2006/07 season when they were promoted but instead of growing, they have declined. Whereas the Warriors attendances are steadily increasing.
I said it once and I'll say it again, when/if Whelan goes, the great divide between the town will reduce drastically and maybe then both teams attendances will steadily increase, which IMO can only be a good thing.
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| Wigan Atheletic Attendances
Season Attendance
2000/2001 6774
2001/2002 5771
2002/2003 7283
2003/2004 9530
2004/2005 11155
2005/2006 20904
2006/2007 18159
2007/2008 19046
Total Attendance Over 8 Seasons 98622
Total Average Attendance 12327.75
Wigan Warriors Attendances
Season Attendance
2000 10536
2001 11334
2002 10436
2003 10387
2004 12434
2005 13894
2006 14464
2007 16039
2008 14505
Total Attendance Over 9 Seasons 114029
Total Average Attendance 12669.89
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| With regards to the shop at the stadium, as this is what the thread is about, I agree 100% that Latics should have a shop within the stadium and it is about time. But Wigan RL should also have a shop. There is absolutely no reason why the shop cannot be a dual purpose shop. Well, probably the only reason being that DW does not want anything to do with the rugby club. Does he not realise that the continous growing ill feeling will hurt Latics more than the rugby? People who would consider going to Latics games who are rugby fans may not go because of the way the Rugby club is being treated.
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| for some strange reason i keep getting e-mails from latics and it says they are having a store in the ground with the support from the JJB sports company.. will it be put on hold when JJB folds?...cos sadly for the many employed there its looking that way. they have been given a 2 week breathing space on their loan by the bank.
also if JJb goes bankrupt will they change the name of the stadium.......the dave whelan stadium by any chance
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| Quote ="elliegg"for some strange reason i keep getting e-mails from latics and it says they are having a store in the ground with the support from the JJB sports company.. will it be put on hold when JJB folds?...cos sadly for the many employed there its looking that way. they have been given a 2 week breathing space on their loan by the bank.
also if JJb goes bankrupt will they change the name of the stadium.......the dave whelan stadium by any chance'"
Can I have your crystal ball please?
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Coverage has absolutely nothing to do with it. Our crowds went up by a load in about 10 years because we went from nothing to something, so have the Latics, yet for the insecure that's something to criticise them about.'"
Great comments Andy,you seem to be one of the few on here with a reasonable view of events.
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| Didn't we have a Warriors Merchandise shop in the Town centre (in Marketgate) that lasted about 5 minutes ???
What's the point of ressurecting a failed idea ?.......As always I expect Whelan will be the obstacle, but a shared shop at the ground has to be the best way forward, as is the continued sharing of the ground itself. There is no other financial model that will ever make sense to BOTH clubs ....we have to get over this constant adolescent name calling and wittering on about relative sizes of crowds.
The long term benefit of both clubs, rests on a shared stadium , where a reasonable element of each club's support, feel happy to go and support the other side.....there are a few knocking about now but it needs to grow.
Although the continued presence of one man makes this highly unlikely in the short term.......and once again I'm not thinking of the Play off rearrangement , I happen to know (not suspect) DW was "put up against the wall" by the powers that be in the Prem League to guarantee that the football pitch wasn't compromised this year .....and whilst he's "Billy Big Time" round here ....He's strictly small fry amongst the big time gangsters and dictators that rule the roost in Football.........His despicable treatment of a former employee who is sadly no longer with us....that's the prime reason behind my distaste for the man, and as long as he's around the clubs and the supporters will not be able to move closer together.
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| orrell lad
i thought it was common knowledge that JJb is suffering finacial difficulties cos they lost loads of money in the icelandic banks crash.
also whelan has said in papers he is looking for a company who can pay him to have the stadium named after their company...a bit like shirt sponsorship.........i think lenegan should coff up the cash and we could call it the WIGAN RUGBY LEAGUE STADIUM......that would be nice
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| Quote ="MattyB"IIRC At the first ever forum IL stated that when Wigan RL fans purchased tickets they had to make cheques payable to 'Wigan Football Club', this would be the first thing he was changing, which brought a huge cheer to the room.
If the above is the case then I'm seriously not impressed.
Come on Mr. Lenagan, please explain...!
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Disappointing lack of historical knowledge there from IL.
"The Wigan Football Club" is THE HISTORIC NAME OF OUR CLUB. Just like Hull FC, Wigan FC was so called because the rugby club was founded at a time when "football" meant either rugby or association football and the first clubs to set up were rugby clubs. The association football clubs that came along later had to call themselves something else - eg. Hull City, Oldham Athletic Football Club, Rochdale Association Football Club - because the rugby football clubs got there first.
(I once had the misfortune of watching Rugby Lions (then in rah-rah's NL1) playing onion a few years ago, in the town whose school gave rugby its name. The sign above the clubhouse gives that club's official name - "The Rugby Football Club" - which is quite impressive, though of course they play the dull version of rugby.)
Anyway, back to the topic. I would rather gouge my own eyes out with a spoon than make a cheque out to Wigan AFC.
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| Quote ="elliegg"orrell lad
i thought it was common knowledge that JJb is suffering finacial difficulties cos they lost loads of money in the icelandic banks crash.'"
Nope, JJB didn't lose a penny in the Icelandic banking collapse. They're having financial difficulties, but they'll pull through IMO.
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Quote ="Orrell Lad"Nope, JJB didn't lose a penny in the Icelandic banking collapse. They're having financial difficulties, but they'll pull through IMO.'" The Icelandic Bank crisis did impact JJB.
www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008 ... rts.retail
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www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008 ... rts.retail
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sadly JJB is in very serious trouble and needs to sell its fitness in the next 2 weeks to generate money. they are also letting all the agency staff go from what ive been told.
the icelandic bank that lent JJB money has gone into receivership and the money is being chased by the receivers.
god its like the financial times on here....lol....
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While it's true to say it had an impact on JJB - or more accurately JJB's valuation and it's shareholders - the company itself didn't actually lose a penny due to what happened in Iceland
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| Quote ="elliegg"orrell lad
sadly JJB is in very serious trouble and needs to sell its fitness centres in the next 2 weeks to generate money. they are also letting all the agency staff go from what ive been told.
the icelandic bank that lent JJB money has gone into receivership and the money is being chased by the receivers.
god its like the financial times on here....lol....'"
Trust me they are in trouble - talking to a senior manager who said they will be here six months max. They have turned all their stock into a jumble sale and sell what the staff call polish clothes
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| This is Ian Lenagan we are talking about
What is to stop him putting his hand is in his own pocket and using his money to create a lasting legacy of his time at Wigan and buying fitness first etc for the club.
A real fan in the Jack Walker mould would.
I would suggest many of you devoye a greater % of your income to Wigan RL than Ian Lenagan does.
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"icon_eek.gif This is Ian Lenagan we are talking about
What is to stop him putting his hand is in his own pocket and using his money to create a lasting legacy of his time at Wigan and buying fitness first etc for the club.
A real fan in the Jack Walker mould would.
I would suggest many of you devoye a greater % of your income to Wigan RL than Ian Lenagan does.'"
Maybe create a museum / Hall of Fame, there must be loads of shirts, medals, programmes etc out there that need a home, the great history of our club should be celebrated, we should have a place we can visit, it would be a feather in his cap if he made this happen !!
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| In terms of museums. Alongside the obvious heritage exhibits with technology advancing there are great possibilities in terms of interactive, young people 'toys' Preston's Football Museum has a great you become a MOTD commentator exhibit. Man U / Preston both have beat the keeper exhibits. Imagine a can you replicate Joes drop goal at Maine Road. Passing exhibits.
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| Did anyone see the pictures in the Post today, I didn't realise the former players lounge was that large, surely there's enough space for both clubs merchandise. I also noticed the club aren't running the shop but Vandanel, whoever they are.
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| On Matchdays for the rugby the shop will be half filled with rugby merchandise and not on matchdays the shop will have just basic merchandise (shirts etc)
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| Where did you hear that, and will it be open past regular hours, seeing as most games are Friday night.
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| Shouldn't this be moved to other sports?
I'm sure one was yesterday by a trigger happy insecure mod.
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"On Matchdays for the rugby the shop will be half filled with rugby merchandise and not on matchdays the shop will have just basic merchandise (shirts etc)'"
Really. Fair play to the owners / DW if true.
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| Opened by Neil Ruddock. I would've thought Latics 'legends' would be queuing up for this honour.
Do they have any legends?
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"Opened by Neil Ruddock. I would've thought Latics 'legends' would be queuing up for this honour.
Do they have any legends?
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Obviously not.....er er er er... Peter Houghton perhaps
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