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| Some spots are nailed on and some are wide open IMO:
1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Goulding/Watkins/Atkins/Cudjoe
4. Reed
5. Hall
6. Widdop/Sinfield
7. Brough/Smith/Myler
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Burgess
11. Ellis
12. Westwood
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14. Hock
15. McIlorum
16. Crabtree/Hill/Mossop/Heightington
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| Quote ="FIOS"Heigh[delt[/delington'"
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| 1 - Tomkins
2 - Charnley
3 - Goulding
4 - Reed
5 - Hall
6 - Widdop
7 - Lomax
8 - Mossop
9 - Roby
10 - Graham
11 - Burgess
12 - Ellis
13 - O'Loughlin
14 - Westwood
15 - Morley
16 - Crabtree
17 - Farrell
Depends who has a good season and injuries, also added to the squad I'd have Briscoe, Watkins, Hock, Hardaker, Brough, Sinfield, McIllorum, Atkins, Hill and another prop who has a good season whether its Prescot, Fielden, Mason, Amor or even Bailey just to wind the Aussies up.
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| We need more options at half back as Sinfield isn't the answer at this level. Widdup is a shoe in then we've got a glut of players none of who have shouted loud enough "pick me" - Brough, Myler, Chase, Lomax, Smith, Robinson, McGuire, Price. Burrow I would see as a second hooker fight with Mickey Mac. Beginning to like the idea of Sam at half back, but would it work with Widdup?
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| Quote ="Finfin"We need more options at half back as Sinfield isn't the answer at this level. Widdup is a shoe in then we've got a glut of players none of who have shouted loud enough "pick me" - Brough, Myler, Chase, Lomax, Smith, Robinson, McGuire, Price. Burrow I would see as a second hooker fight with Mickey Mac. Beginning to like the idea of Sam at half back, but would it work with Widdup?'"
Widdop is far from a shoe in with Macca in charge! Hand on heart I believe it'll be Sinfield and Chase but it must be Widdop and one other. If Sam's troubles under the high ball continues I'd seriously consider getting him in alongside Gareth Widdop at 7 with Hardaker coming in at 1.
That would be a really exciting triangle of young players.
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| Widdop/Hardaker (Sam couldn't catch his dick in his fly)
Hall Reed Watkins Briscoe
Tomkins Sinfield
Burgess McM Morley
Westwood Ellis
Lockers
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Roby Graham Hock Crabtree
Bench with real impact.
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| IMO we should play players in their position they play for their clubs, that way they can concentrate on the game
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| Hardaker.
Hall, Reed, Atkins, Briscoe,
Tomkins, Widdop,
Burgess, McIlorum, Graham.
Westwood, Ellis,
O'Loughlin. Bench, Crabtree, Roby, Hock, Sinfield.
Move Sam out of FB and replace with Hardaker
Backs wise we need good attackers but guys that can defend. I think those four are the best combining both aspects of playing v the Aussies and Kiwis.
Widdop a shoe in and also knows how Smith, Cronk and Slater are thinking and what they'll likely do next.
Sam at half back.
The pack more or less sorts itself out. I've put Sinfield in the 17 just for his versaltility. Usually not up to Intl standard.
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| If everyone is fit and on form:
1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Kallum Watkins
4. Jack Reed
5. Ryan Hall
6. Kevin Sinfield (c)
7. Richie Myler
8. Sam Burgess
9. Michael McIlorum (1st 20 mins - soften them up)
10. James Graham
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Ben Westwood
13. Sean O'loughlin
14. James Roby
15. Gareth Hock
16. Chris Hill
17. Eorl Crabtree
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| I will just add that if Wilkin, Ablett or Jamie Jones Buchanan are anywhere near a test jersey I am boycotting the entire tournament.
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| I can't believe so many are suggesting Tomkins at 7. He's played the majority of his first team rugby at 1, he plays at 1 when available for Wigan. To the put him into a pivitol position such as 7 having not played there for at least 2 full seasons and expect him to perform against Australia and NZ is plain crazy.
He either plays at 1 or not at all.
1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Reed
4. Watkins
5. Hall
6. Widdop
7. Brough
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Burgess
11. Westwood
12. Ellis
13. O'Loughlin
14. Crabtree
15. Hill
16. Farrell
17. Burrow
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| I was one who suggested Sam in the halves.
Last time he played against the Aussies Lockyer bombed all him and Briscoe all game and they couldn't handle it. Thurston or Cronk could easily do that. Hardaker is safer under the bomb and has a bit of pace to get around the field in defence. Should Sam improve under the bomb during the season then obviously he would go to full back. Until that improvement comes, halves for me.
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| Quote ="bigbadstu"I will just add that if Wilkin, Ablett or Jamie Jones Buchanan are anywhere near a test jersey I am boycotting the entire tournament.'"
Is that Ablett that continually tore Melbourne to pieces down the right last week playing out of position?
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| Quote ="tony1983"Is that Ablett that continually tore Melbourne to pieces down the right last week playing out of position?'"
I am not saying that he should be a shoe in, but he was outstanding against the Storm.
I do think he would be an underwhelming choice against the Aussies though. See how he goes through the year.
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| Ablett is gradually playing himself into contention for the 17. He's a shoe in for the squad IMO.
It'll be interesting who plays left centre. I'm not sold on Reed, Atkins hasn't really shown up well in the few games he's had for England. Cudjoe has done well and improved a lot since the last he last played against the Aussies, and at the moment I think he has the shirt but its by no means guarenteed..
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| I think if Farrell can carry on the same vein of form he's shown in the early part of the season he will be in with a good shout of being in the 17.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"I can't believe so many are suggesting Tomkins at 7. He's played the majority of his first team rugby at 1, he plays at 1 when available for Wigan. To the put him into a pivitol position such as 7 having not played there for at least 2 full seasons and expect him to perform against Australia and NZ is plain crazy.
He either plays at 1 or not at all.
1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Reed
4. Watkins
5. Hall
6. Widdop
7. Brough
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Burgess
11. Westwood
12. Ellis
13. O'Loughlin
14. Crabtree
15. Hill
16. Farrell
17. Burrow'"
I reckon this is as good as it gets currently, if you assume that Mr Hock is out of the picture.
I'm hoping that some players really burst through this season and demand selection - Myler, McGilvray, The Burgess', Hardacre, Lomax spring to mind.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Hardaker.
Hall, Reed, Atkins, Briscoe,
Tomkins, Widdop,
Burgess, McIlorum, Graham.
Westwood, Ellis,
O'Loughlin. Bench, Crabtree, Roby, Hock, Sinfield.
The pack more or less sorts itself out. I've put Sinfield in the 17 just for his versaltility. Usually not up to Intl standard.'"
International standard or not, his goalkicking would be needed in that 17.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"International standard or not, his goalkicking would be needed in that 17.'"
Why when Bennie "El masri" Westwood ans Sam "Frano" Tomkins are in the team?
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2. Charnley
3. Cudjoe/Watkins
4. Atkins
5. Hall
6. Sinfield
7. Brough
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Burgess
11. Farrell
12. Westwood
13. O'Loughlin
14. Crabtree
15. Ferres
16. Hock
17. Hill
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| 1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Atkins
5. Charnley
6. Widdop
7. Myler
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Burgess
11. Hock
12. Westwood
13. Sinfield
14. Ellis
15. Burrow
16. Crabtree
17. Hill
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| Quote ="chunkyhugo"1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Atkins
5. Charnley
6. Widdop
7. Myler
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Burgess
11. Hock
12. Westwood
13. Sinfield
14. Ellis
15. Burrow
16. Crabtree
17. Hill'"
Blimey, Charnley's gonna be busy
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Blimey, Charnley's gonna be busy
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Especially with those 2 centres !!!!
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| 1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Reed
5. Hall
6. Sinfield
7. Widdop
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Hill
11. Ellis
12. Westwood
13. O'Loughlin
Bench
14. Burrow
15. S. Burgess (to come on at prop)
16. Crabtree
17. Hock
Plenty room for others to fight their way in though
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Charnley
Watkins
Atkins
Hall
Widdop
Myler
Graham (c)
McIllorum
Burgess
Ellis
Westwood
O'Loughlin
Bench
Roby
Hock
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