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| Quote ="Mother Feka"what was the penalty count...?'"
Pretty even in the end I think. Shouldn't we have had one for Goulding being lifted and carried towards the touchline, too? I know the rule only says one leg, so maybe both is OK?
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| If a ref can't be fair for both sides then he should out. Saints got stuffed in the fist 20 then when the crowd started to get on his back he switched to Wigan. That behaviour is not good and if there was a bit more needle todays game would have erupted. It's a good job that both teams were good pros managed by two good coaches. Well done both sides but even better pies.
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| Quote ="Geoff"Pretty even in the end I think. Shouldn't we have had one for Goulding being lifted and carried towards the touchline, too? I know the rule only says one leg, so maybe both is OK?'"
it looked like it was gleeson who did the lifting
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| Why did Meli's trip on Amos not get penalised ? It was when we broke from the scrum and Lockers passed it to Roberts.
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"what was the penalty count...?'"
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| didn't even notice him!!!
disgraceful performance, didn't pay to watch him blow his whistle all the match. no bitterness on my part, i referring to both sides
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| Quote ="DP_wwrlfc"Why did Meli's trip on Amos not get penalised ? It was when we broke from the scrum and Lockers passed it to Roberts.'"
I thought the same, a trip is a red card isn't it? Definitely a yellow at least. I don't think Roberts should have been binned, once pryce taps the ball hasn't Roberts got every right to challenge him? Also Roberts never moved when that kick was put over him, but if the ref gives a penalty surely he has to bin and send off Roberts? Of course i don't want to see our player sent off, but I just don't understand some of the decisions Thaler made.
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| Quote ="Dave26"I thought the same, a trip is a red card isn't it? Definitely a yellow at least. I don't think Roberts should have been binned, once pryce taps the ball hasn't Roberts got every right to challenge him? Also Roberts never moved when that kick was put over him, but if the ref gives a penalty surely he has to bin and send off Roberts? Of course i don't want to see our player sent off, but I just don't understand some of the decisions Thaler made.'"
i've not watched the match again, i can't remember the meli 'trip' thought the amos sinbinning was right, it was on the back of two penalties, and he did it from an offside position.
more bizarrely, he didn't sin bin (you can be sin binned twice in a match) him from the kick over, which having given the penalty (rightly or wrongly) i can't see any other decision but to bin him
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| I don't recall the trip (maybe I'll have more of an opinion on a few things after I see it replayed on TV).
Anyway, my opinion of Thaler is simple:
Whistle-happy game spoiler.
I (like most Wigan fans) felt that he penalised us both unfairly and randomly whilst letting similar things go for Saints.
However, that's because I'm biased toward Wigan (naturally).
I know that the Saints fans that I spoke to felt that he penalised THEM unfairly, whilst ignoring things that Wigan were doing.
Regardless of the rights & wrongs of the 2 views - 26 penalties is FAR too many, and will naturally spoil the game for BOTH sets of spectators.
The Roberts sin-binning was ridiculous - Pryce faked the tap, then when the fullback touched him (being the first to react to a player faking an attack on our line from 3 yards out) - he gets 10 minutes.
When we broke the line and got to within 10 metres, Saints caught the man (can't remember who), then gave away a penalty for lying on.
That was as clear a professional foul as you will ever see, and should have been an automatic 10 minutes.
As I said - I accept that I will only notice the calls that went against Wigan, as I'm a wigan fan, but Thaler did his absolute best to ruin that game as a spetacle for both sets of fans and the TV audience alike.
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| Just watched it again, he wasnt as bad as I thought at the ground.
IMO he tried to be the centre of attention and disrupted the flow of the game.
Our wrestle is being needlessly highlighted and as such is detracting from games we are involved in.
Roberts being penalised for taking out Wilkin when he kicked over was a shockingly bad call.
The sin binning was fair, but Wilkin should have gone in the first half.
Potter blaming the ref, weather and game speed was utterly pathetic however - were we somehow sheltered from the rain. A man under pressure imo.
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| Quote ="AJ"Potter blaming the ref, weather and game speed was utterly pathetic however - were we somehow sheltered from the rain. A man under pressure imo.'"
IMO, he knows we beat them on the day, so he doesn't really like it at all!
PS, Thaler was $h1te today!
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| Quote ="AJ"Just watched it again, he wasnt as bad as I thought at the ground.
IMO he tried to be the centre of attention and disrupted the flow of the game.
Our wrestle is being needlessly highlighted and as such is detracting from games we are involved in.
Roberts being penalised for taking out Wilkin when he kicked over was a shockingly bad call.
The sin binning was fair, but Wilkin should have gone in the first half.
Potter blaming the ref, weather and game speed was utterly pathetic however - were we somehow sheltered from the rain. A man under pressure imo.'"
Potter's right, it's these damn weather conditions making us lose. The Fog against Hull and the Rain against you lot today. It better not be Windy at Castleford on Monday or this terrible weather will cost us another game!
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| Quote ="Ande"13 each'" He managed to even it up then,
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| you are all slating the ref but from a totaly neutral prospective yhe game was spoilt by alot of ill discipline from both teams forcing the high penalty count, I think you will find he helped niether team he just did his job.
well done to to the pies well deserved win can't wait for bulls to go to pie town and do the double over you!
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| You aint got a chance of beating us at our place and you can quote me on that.
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| Quote ="DP_wwrlfc"You aint got a chance of beating us at our place and you can quote me on that.'"
when the time comes I will
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| Quote ="woolybully"you are all slating the ref but from a totaly neutral prospective yhe game was spoilt by alot of ill discipline from both teams forcing the high penalty count, I think you will find he helped niether team he just did his job.
well done to to the pies well deserved win can't wait for bulls to go to pie town and do the double over you!'"
Are you going to bring any fans this season?
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| more than you brought to ours as usual! and win or lose (it will be a win) we won't be fighting amongst ourselves on the way back to our cars and coaches
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| Quote ="woolybully"more than you brought to ours as usual'"
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| Quote ="woolybully"more than you brought to ours as usual! and win or lose (it will be a win) we won't be fighting amongst ourselves on the way back to our cars and coaches
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A Bradford fan (apparently)
Joined yesterday
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All 4 are on the Wigan forum
Fook off.
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| Quote ="CAM."A Bradford fan (apparently)
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Fook off.'"
clever boy just proving what lovely people there are in lancishire
Ps learn how to count little man 1 of those posts was on Sts forum
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| Quote ="JLM23"Potter's right, it's these damn weather conditions making us lose. The Fog against Hull and the Rain against you lot today. It better not be Windy at Castleford on Monday or this terrible weather will cost us another game!'"
Not his biggest fan then?
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| Quote ="woolybully"eusa_clap.gif
clever boy just proving what lovely people there are in lancishire
Ps learn how to count little man 1 of those posts was on Sts forum'"
I was saying 4 in anticipation of another one of your crap retorts.
Ding.
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| Im glad we won but I thought he ruined what could of been a great last game at KR. It wasn't exactly entertaining to watch with Thaler blowing up every five seconds. Towards the end of the game it was clear both teams were fatigued and he could of let some things go.
For me best ref of the year so far has been James Child, he seems to have a bit of common sense when hes refereeing, and has shown a few of the more experienced refs' up this season.
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"
For me best ref of the year so far has been James Child, he seems to have a bit of common sense when hes refereeing, and has shown a few of the more experienced refs' up this season.'"
I thought Child was poor at Cas, but otherwise, yeah, from what I've seen he's not too bad.
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