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| Quote ="JTB"Mini Rogue is actually a scouser as he lives the wrong side of the Billing dividing line...'"
I'm more Irish than scouse, how dare you! I have no relatives from Liverpool
FWIW I'm the least pessimistic person you'll ever know. I hope Maguire can improve our team but I don't see how an assistant coach is going to change the same team that Noble had, with Noble who had more experience and more knowledge of the English game than some 2nd rate Aussie.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"icon_lol.gif I'm more Irish than scouse, how dare you! I have no relatives from Liverpool
FWIW I'm the least pessimistic person you'll ever know. I hope Maguire can improve our team but I don't see how an assistant coach is going to change the same team that Noble had, with Noble who had more experience and more knowledge of the English game than some 2nd rate Aussie.'"
BOOOOOOO. Get off doom monger!
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| See , He's at it again..........too quick for me Pemps
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"icon_lol.gif I'm more Irish than scouse, how dare you! I have no relatives from Liverpool
FWIW I'm the least pessimistic person you'll ever know. I hope Maguire can improve our team but I don't see how an assistant coach is going to change the same team that Noble had, with Noble who had more experience and more knowledge of the English game than some 2nd rate Aussie.'"
Perhaps that will be a strength for him, he perhaps doesnt know a great deal about the english game, where as many people who work in one particular field for the entire working lives get stuck in their ways and have "this is the way we do it mentality"
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| Quote ="Sharpy_4a"Quote ="Mini Rogue"icon_lol.gif I'm more Irish than scouse, how dare you! I have no relatives from Liverpool
FWIW I'm the least pessimistic person you'll ever know. I hope Maguire can improve our team but I don't see how an assistant coach is going to change the same team that Noble had, with Noble who had more experience and more knowledge of the English game than some 2nd rate Aussie'"
Perhaps that will be a strength for him, he perhaps doesnt know a great deal about the english game, where as many people who work in one particular field for the entire working lives get stuck in their ways and have "this is the way we do it mentality"'"
Hopefully, I hope he can bring something different with new ideas but I just think people shouldn't be getting to excited with an un proven 1st team coach and the possibly of falling further back. Anyway that's the end of that.
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| Here here, let's try to give him our full support at least for the first season!
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"icon_lol.gif I'm more Irish than scouse, how dare you! I have no relatives from Liverpool
FWIW I'm the least pessimistic person you'll ever know. I hope Maguire can improve our team but I don't see how an assistant coach is going to change the same team that Noble had, with Noble who had more experience and more knowledge of the English game than some 2nd rate Aussie.'"
Very harsh
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| I don't think there will be much negativity untill the new season starts if we have some poor early losses which I don't think we will, I can see us having a great start and I really fancy playing Leeds in the first few games so we can turn them over
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Beyond harsh it's actually stupid, although young Rogue has a precedent for ill considered nonsense...
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| Quote ="JTB"Beyond harsh it's actually stupid, although young Rogue has a precedent for ill considered nonsense...'"
How is it? He's hardly 1st class when he's not even been 1st team coach. Don't let facts get in the way though.
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| Mini Rogues, Maguire has just been assistant coach in the team who has just won the NRL! Bellamy said that he played a massive role in the success of Melbourne for a few years, you can tell by the way Melbourne play that he is clearly doing something right as he was in charge of the backs! Not to mention that Wayne Bennett rates him as the next best coach! All this and you call him a second rate aussie
He has not fully made it yet but he is certainly not second rate, you say it like we have just picked any old random coach up from the outback!
You opinion that it might not work out is valid and I respect your opinion but I'm afraid that is utter bull, sir.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"How is it? He's hardly 1st class when he's not even been 1st team coach. Don't let facts get in the way though.'"
In your ill thought out logic, you fail to consider that every coach that becomes a first team coach has prior to their appointment learned their coaching ropes as an assistant or in a lower grade. Was Wayne Bennett 'second rate' until he coached a first team? You may have just used poor English to illustrate that he is unproven as a first team coach, but knowing the s[ihi[/ite you talk regularly I'm not prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt
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| Quote ="JTB"In your ill thought out logic, you fail to consider that every coach that becomes a first team coach has prior to their appointment learned their coaching ropes as an assistant or in a lower grade. Was Wayne Bennett 'second rate' until he coached a first team? You may have just used poor English to illustrate that he is unproven as a first team coach, but knowing the s[ihi[/ite you talk regularly I'm not prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt
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We'll have to wait and see and give him time, I hope it works but alot of people said the same about Lammy in why we can't take him on as coach so why not this guy?
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"How is it? He's hardly 1st class when he's not even been 1st team coach. Don't let facts get in the way though.'"
A truly bizarre post from someone who doesn't appear to have a clue, and yet claims that he has facts.
People had doubts about Nobby after three and a half years of indifferent peformances. You have doubts about Maguire before he's even arrived!!!
Don't talk about facts. This is either personal agenda prejudice or plain idiocy.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"We'll have to wait and see and give him time, I hope it works but alot of people said the same about Lammy in why we can't take him on as coach so why not this guy?'"
Because he's been working at Melbourne with some of the best players in the world and Lammy hasn't? Melbourne's success is all down to Bellamy and Maguire don't you know.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"We'll have to wait and see and give him time, I hope it works but alot of people said the same about Lammy in why we can't take him on as coach so why not this guy?'"
If you can't see why Maguire is a better option than Lam then you need a visit to Lourdes!
View my post above!
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A truly bizarre post from someone who doesn't appear to have a clue, and yet claims that he has facts.
People had doubts about Nobby after three and a half years of indifferent peformances. You have doubts about Maguire before he's even arrived!!!
Don't talk about facts. This is either personal agenda prejudice or plain idiocy.'"
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A truly bizarre post from someone who doesn't appear to have a clue, and yet claims that he has facts.
People had doubts about Nobby after three and a half years of indifferent peformances. You have doubts about Maguire before he's even arrived!!!
Don't talk about facts. This is either personal agenda prejudice or plain idiocy.'"
Alright then, let's wait until the end of next season at least to see if anythings changed. If we have improved then I'll take it all back and be the first to admit I was wrong. I however don't see how people can get so excited about an assistant coach taking over who has never had 1st team coaching experience, that's all.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Alright then, let's wait until the end of next season at least to see if anythings changed. If we have improved then I'll take it all back and be the first to admit I was wrong. I however don't see how people can get so excited about an assistant coach taking over who has never had 1st team coaching experience, that's all.'"
You really need to do your homework.
Maguire has been at the fulcrum of the Melbourne Storm success story for several years. On numerous occasions, he's had charge of the first team. Brisbane were after him, and we beat them off. He's highly rated by all the top coaches in Aus, including Bellamy, Bennett, etc. He's a keen student of the most modern and innovative NRL techniques.
I appreciate that some Wiganers feel a compulsion to be born skeptics, but there are times when you simply have to come down from inside your own anus and look at the real picture, not one that you've invented in order to maintain your self-image.
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| FWIW aswell I'm very pleased that Wane has got the assistant coach. The work he has done with the youngsters has been nothing but outstanding and deserves the job, maybe the good thing with both of them is that they are both young in their jobs and will work well together to prove that they are good coaches.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"FWIW aswell I'm very pleased that Wane has got the assistant coach. The work he has done with the youngsters has been nothing but outstanding and deserves the job, maybe the good thing with both of them is that they are both young in their jobs and will work well together to prove that they are good coaches.'"
Is that a hint of positive thinking Mini Rogues?
I am shocked!
Next you will be saying we might win a few games next year!
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Is that a hint of positive thinking Mini Rogues?
I am shocked!
Next you will be saying we might win a few games next year!'"
I actually thought we'd win last Saturday before the game so anythings possible
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| I think some people fail to grasp the concept that a Head Coach is just that, a head of a team of coaches all working towards the same goal. The best coaching teams work as a unit to deliver success on the field with good balance. Under Noble, with Vievers, we never had that balance as we always struggled to have any kind of attacking flair in the opposition 20. 50m out we are fine but we now have a Head Coach with expertise in this area and he should be judged on how we improve in this area.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"FWIW aswell I'm very pleased that Wane has got the assistant coach. The work he has done with the youngsters has been nothing but outstanding and deserves the job, maybe the good thing with both of them is that they are both young in their jobs and will work well together to prove that they are good coaches.'"
But Wane's never had an assistant coaching job before.I can't see why you'd be excited about this.........
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"icon_lol.gif I'm more Irish than scouse, how dare you! I have no relatives from Liverpool
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If you are Irish you are related to the entire scouse population aren't you?
Quote FWIW I'm the least pessimistic person you'll ever know. I hope Maguire can improve our team but I don't see how an assistant coach is going to change the same team that Noble had, with Noble who had more experience and more knowledge of the English game than some 2nd rate Aussie.'"
I think we must have slipped into another dimension. Me, with my sig getting all optimistic and Mini Scouse gone all pessimistic. You can borrow my sig if you like.
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