You'd think that after 14 years people would finally have grasped the concept that we are not starting a new competition next week.

But I agree about how we've drifted this far away from the topic. Back to talking about us being attendance champions please.

There's no mention in my post of teams not winning anything, simply that receiving the lls is not winning the league whether any of us like it or not!

Good point, like was stated our average gate is bigger than what the HJ holds. A small club comes to mind.

It's not difficult: the Shield is the trophy awarded to the team finishing in first position in the league after the regular rounds.

It does not equate to "winning the league" since the primary purpose of the regular rounds is to determine who qualifies for the play-offs. The Shield gives some recognition to the team that has earned the most points, but it is a minor title.

That said, it is still worth having - there are only 3 trophies on offer to SL sides, and Wire fans are entitled to be happy about winning the Shield, even if it is the least prestigious of the 3.

Sorry all decent Wigan posters, this kid is single handedly taking a good forum down the pan.

Well done for having the best gates in SL, maybe one or two other clubs should take up some of the initiatives you've introduced over the past couple of years. I'm talking about Cas, Wakefield, Huddersfield (especially them), Quins. Saints and Salford should get a good increase next year, HKR and Les Cats can maintain decent gates and Hull's crowds will increase if they get a bit of success. The return of Widnes should also improve overall aggregate gates, they should get 8,000 for most games and a full house for Wire, Wigan, and Saints.

Probably time to stop the Wigan - Wire cocck measuring fellas. It's done for about 15 threads in the last week or so.

Funnily enough, the same applies 100% for yourselves and the challenge cup. People in glass houses etc.

See the above post. Everyone make this the last one.

Sorry mate, never got to the end of the thread, just replied to that post.


I would for one Wire like to say Congrats, wigan have a great nubmer of fans turn up week in week out (admittedly some leave earlier than the rest

) I only hope that our new ground and expansion will push our crowds up and that we can try and expand again, hoping to even match or better your support.

It's good to see that SL is still alive and well despite all the naysayers(sp?).

I think we all agree the systen is flawed,otherwise there wouldnt be so much debate,end of the day there are 3 cups up for grabs challenge cup.league leaders shield and grand final two have been won already the 3rd is up for grabs,for me the team with the most cups at the end of the year takes the bragging rights,if there was a 4th for best attendance then there would only be one outcome

Hull KR and they're one million a week gates?

Hardly, last year I stated that finishing top of the league is a bigger achievement than winning the CC which it is, and last year obviously you lot couldn't accept that. You tried to belittle our achievement and some of you even insisted you would rather finished 2nd and win the CC. One year later and your attitude has changed completely, now according to some Wire folk finishing top of the league now means your champions, its bigger than the CC and GF doesn't matter as your already champions.

Congrats on the League leaders, its a good achievement but at no point are you champions yet. I get the feeling with some wire fans that no matter who wins the GF, they will think they are true champions despite the fact we have had this system for years now.

Could you find some quotes about the above because I have missed them.

Cheers

By the way I would rather of won the CC again then win the league/Shield/league toppers pop tart or whatever its called.

So it's "just a feeling" then rather than anyone actually saying we will be the SL Champions no matter who wins at OT. Don't talk wet. Last year you lot also spent a long time telling us how much better the LLS was when we had won the cup both years, yet all of a sudden the cup is worth winning again, and the LLS is just a plastic pot.

These things work both ways mate, shame you can't see it through your cherry and white specs.

There's already been enough warnings (3 on the last page alone from myself and JTB) about derailing this thread into a WIgan v Dire measuring competition. Stop it or the next person will have the privilege of taking my moderator cherry.

A simple Congrats on your attendances from a jealous saints fan.

The attendance for the Cru game was simply amazing.

Hope i am not going off topic here but what are Saints hoping to get next season? I know John Wilkinson at Salford is looking at around 8,000, should get more than that surely at your new stadium.

I should think that saints will be getting around 11,000 12,000 for next year? They will have many of the die hard regulars back and also those interested in the new stadium etc. Should be a good year with the new stadiums, now just cas, wakey, leeds to build and or fix their stadiums.

Leeds plans for the south stand are on hold due to finance problems.

I thought the council had agreed to help with said problems as a "loan".

Id also put Bradford in that aswell. How that ground meets the super league standards is beyond me. Theres so much that can be done to the ground but it still looks the same as it did 30 years ago.

Got to agree, solid foundations and it's a real shame their plans didn't come off for the Bradford Sports Village(or whatever it was called) as that would have been great, the plans seemed outstanding.

Hull KR can be added to that list of grounds that need fixing, any others?

Ring fence got a hole in it then?

Crowds were down this year. They only averaged 980,234. Typical small time club.


Congrats on finishing top and see you at Old Trafford.

Outstanding that they were 1,000,000 down on last year's attendances.



Appreciate it, and here's hoping mate.