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| What about the long suffering fans from the 70's. Only 4 guys deserve a mention, although none can really be described as true legends - George Fairbairn and Bob Irving who always gave 100% amongst much inferior teammates; Bill Ashurst (2nd stint ended in tears) and Green Vigo (incredible talent who was handled incredibly badly) who both really should have gone on to be legends. Vigo is of course a legend off the field.
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| It's an intriguing debate. For me, I've always maintained Hanley was the greatest player of the game I've ever seen. Passion for the club is one thing but a true professional can get by without that because he will always have passion for what he does. Hanley, to me, always gave his best for Wigan when he was at Wigan - maybe he didn't have quite the emotional attachment to the club that some others did (although me might have, he's always been a man who keeps a lid on things) but it didn't matter because he had a clear passion to be the best he could at whatever he did. Couple that with his talent and, as another poster remarked, you got a player who was capable of turning games more or less single-handed. Moreover, he was a man who other great players looked up to in the same way we, as fans, look up to our favourite players.
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| I've never understood why Dallas gets mentioned in the Legends bracket. Is he more deserving than the likes of O'Connor or Cassidy or Cowie (committed players who slogged their guts out for Wigan!). Just a talented pro with 1 winners medal, never a legend IMO.
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"I've never understood why Dallas gets mentioned in the Legends bracket. Is he more deserving than the likes of O'Connor or Cassidy or Cowie (committed players who slogged their guts out for Wigan!). Just a talented pro with 1 winners medal, never a legend IMO.'"
Are you saying Dallas wasn't committed and didn't slog his guts for Wigan? The man was one of the bravest players I've seen in the C&W and never gave less than 100%. The fact he only won 1 medal was completely undeserved. He would've got in any top side throughout his career.
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| Quote ="CAM."Are you saying Dallas wasn't committed and didn't slog his guts for Wigan? The man was one of the bravest players I've seen in the C&W and never gave less than 100%. The fact he only won 1 medal was completely undeserved. He would've got in any top side throughout his career.'"
Now I didn't say he wasn't committed did I? Being a committed and brave player isn't enough to warrant legend status IMO.
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| Quote ="Finfin"What about the long suffering fans from the 70's. Only 4 guys deserve a mention, although none can really be described as true legends - George Fairbairn and Bob Irving who always gave 100% amongst much inferior teammates; Bill Ashurst (2nd stint ended in tears) and Green Vigo (incredible talent who was handled incredibly badly) who both really should have gone on to be legends. Vigo is of course a legend off the field.'"
Ashurst is also an of field legend.
born again christian landlord running a rough house pub in ince.
rumour has it that big Billy used to read a verse from the bible to em before taking em outside and beating the crap out of them..
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"Ashurst is also an of field legend.
born again christian landlord running a rough house pub in ince.
rumour has it that big Billy used to read a verse from the bible to em before taking em outside and beating the crap out of them..
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What pub has he got?
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"What pub has he got?'"
he doesnt any more.
he HAD the longneck (anderton arms) in ince green lane , after learning his trade in the squirrel (now last orders) as barman/bouncer
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| Agree with Dave O. If Barrett had've dragged us to an unlikely Challenge Cup win he'd have gone down as a legend like Brett Kenny.
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"born again christian landlord running a rough house pub in ince.
rumour has it that big Billy used to read a verse from the bible to em before taking em outside and beating the crap out of them..
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Think you're getting that mixed up with Pulp Fiction
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| Say "what" again, I dare you.
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| Quote ="Jimmy Birts Lives On"Think you're getting that mixed up with Pulp Fiction'"
i dont think so mate.
he kept a bible under the bar
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| Born in 1994, I missed most of the glory days and had to unfortunately endure the time when weren't as good shall we say.
My ultimate legend was Adrian Lam. Possibly the most underrated player in Super League when he played in my opinion, and being a scrum half, I used to copy every aspect of his game.
Others include the usual:
Farrell
Radlinski
Dallas
But I have to say that Pat Richards is slowly becoming one in my eyes, nothing but 100% every game, and I don't think I've heard him complain about anything while being here.
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| Sullivan (never saw him but on reputation has to be number one)
Boston
Edwards
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Botica (best goalkicker i have ever seen)
Henderson Gill (had that x factor and the smile)
Andy Gregory (best scrum half we have ever had)
Graham West (led by example on and off the field)
Current crop of players that are heading for legend status are Sam Tomkins, Sean O'Loughlin & Pat Richards
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| Quote ="nikos"brett Dallas only retired 2 years ago, so most of us saw him play yet its page 3 before he gets a mention. Will he even get a mention in 5 years?
He was a good player who gave his best for the club, but a legend? no
Barratt - legend? dont make me laugh! and how dare you mention him in the same sentence as the Bostons, Edwards and Hanleys
almost 2 seasons for us (though did seem to miss more than a few through injury - correct me if Im wrong) and for many others went MIA. While he was often the best player on the pitch for us (which TBH was not hard), the odd flash of brillance, a legend does not make.'"
Without Barrett there would have been no semi finals and possibly no play-offs. He was injured for about a month when he arrived and so it took him that long to get into gear and after that he was fine. He dragged a poor team further than it had any right to go.
In his first season he won the players-player award (that is now the vote that gets the MoS) so the players reckon he was the best player in the competition.
As I said we didn't win owt with him here but if we had, he'd as much a legend as Kenny and Kenny is definitely a Wigan legend IMO.
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| What about Eric Ashton. I know he was St. Helens born and bred but he gave his all for Wigan and country over a great many years.
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder"What about Eric Ashton. I know he was St. Helens born and bred but he gave his all for Wigan and country over a great many years.'"
He'd certainly be in my list, along with several others from that era.
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| Glad to see someone mention Graeme West. Its hard for forwards to work their way into these lists because they're simply not the flash harry backs. What about Andy Platt or Andy Goodway?
As an outsider I'd certainly suggest Bell, Offiah, Robinson, Edwards, Hanley.
A few other names to conjure with - where would Lydon, Gregory, Hampson fit?
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| Quote ="Jimmy Birts Lives On"Agree with Dave O. If Barrett had've dragged us to an unlikely Challenge Cup win he'd have gone down as a legend like Brett Kenny.'"
If Barrett had played in an half decent team he might have approached legend status, but he didn't.
When you have watched the game over a long period you get to realise the distinction of good players, excellent players and Legends !
I'd put Bill Ashurst into the legend status too. He would kick them to death with his touch finding today and the 40 - 20 rule.
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| Quote ="Warrior-Till-I-Die"Born in 1994, I missed most of the glory days and had to unfortunately endure the time when weren't as good shall we say.
My ultimate legend was Adrian Lam. Possibly the most underrated player in Super League when he played in my opinion, and being a scrum half, I used to copy every aspect of his game.
Others include the usual:
Farrell
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Dallas
But I have to say that Pat Richards is slowly becoming one in my eyes, nothing but 100% every game, and I don't think I've heard him complain about anything while being here.'"
Pretty much word for word what i would have posted
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder"What about Eric Ashton. I know he was St. Helens born and bred but he gave his all for Wigan and country over a great many years.'"
Certainly a legend.
Not in the top 5 centres I have seen at Wigan but certainly the best captain.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Certainly a legend.
Not in the top 5 centres I have seen at Wigan but certainly the best captain.'"
No George Carmont was he.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Glad to see someone mention Graeme West. Its hard for forwards to work their way into these lists because they're simply not the flash harry backs. What about Andy Platt or Andy Goodway?
As an outsider I'd certainly suggest Bell, Offiah, Robinson, Edwards, Hanley.
A few other names to conjure with - where would Lydon, Gregory, Hampson fit?'"
Maybe Platt. Can't quite see Goodway, as much as I liked him. What about Phil Clarke or, my own favourite, Denis Betts?
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Glad to see someone mention Graeme West. Its hard for forwards to work their way into these lists because they're simply not the flash harry backs.'"
If Craig Smith had been here longer, he could have been on this list. Remember him carrying our pack through that play off game against Leeds in 2003.
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| Certainly at present I feel Pat will go down as a legend. He's the front runner for Man of Steel in my eye's, and if can win that along with a couple of trophies he'll be classed as a legend. After all he's the best winger in the comp at present and has been for a long time, in fact he's probably the best outside back in the comp.
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