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| Outstanding from Forber. Just that extra bit of speed in delivery has made all the difference. I think Leeming has had enough games this year to be deemed as an underwhelming signing (and we’ve had a few in this current batch so far). Nsemba the outstanding player of the night by far.
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| Leeming has been terrible tonight. He is constantly putting us under pressure. Just shows how important a hooker can be.
(Apart from tonight) I wouldn't say he has been terrible overall but he hasn't been good enough either.
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| And 1 minute later......
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| Paying Leeming a fortune I presume on his four year deal. He just seems to act like an idiot and is so petulant for someone who is supposed to be a model pro when it comes to training.
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| Wakey are splashing out. Wonder if they want him. If it's true Forber has agreed a move to Salford then try and offload Leeming and give Salford about 30 grand to cancel the deal.
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| Absolutely nothing wrong with that Leeming challenge.
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| Quote ="Cherry_Warrior"Wakey are splashing out. Wonder if they want him. If it's true Forber has agreed a move to Salford then try and offload Leeming and give Salford about 30 grand to cancel the deal.'"
We need that rumour to be false. No way can we go in to a season with one hooker. Salford rumoured to be looking at Davis from London, who is a hooker, so hopefully there's nothing in it.
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| A lot to review in that game.
The good is digging in and getting the win, minutes for Bevan and Nsemba being phenomenal and pummelling everyone in attack and defence. Thompson again for being the only prop of our rotation to turn up.
The bad is our discipline and our front row rotation. Byrne, Mago and particularly Dupree are killing their teammates with lacklustre effort and attitude. Throw in Walters who again lacks the work ethic to be a top player with us. Any news on Farrell for next week?
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| Quote ="DannyT"A lot to review in that game.
The good is digging in and getting the win, minutes for Bevan and Nsemba being phenomenal and pummelling everyone in attack and defence. Thompson again for being the only prop of our rotation to turn up.
The bad is our discipline and our front row rotation. Byrne, Mago and particularly Dupree are killing their teammates with lacklustre effort and attitude. Throw in Walters who again lacks the work ethic to be a top player with us. Any news on Farrell for next week?'"
Thought Byrne was good tonight, Dupree and Walters generally fine bar Walters getting caught for Catalans' first try.
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| Quote ="DannyT"A lot to review in that game.
The good is digging in and getting the win, minutes for Bevan and Nsemba being phenomenal and pummelling everyone in attack and defence. Thompson again for being the only prop of our rotation to turn up.
The bad is our discipline and our front row rotation. Byrne, Mago and particularly Dupree are killing their teammates with lacklustre effort and attitude. Throw in Walters who again lacks the work ethic to be a top player with us. Any news on Farrell for next week?'"
Doing my best to like Walters but he just pi££es me off with his lethargic runs. He is 6ft 7, get him on some 1000 calorie shakes in the off season and lock the door to the gym with him inside of it and don't let him out until he can lift more than a cotton bud.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Thought Byrne was good tonight, Dupree and Walters generally fine bar Walters getting caught for Catalans' first try.'"
Whoever posted the other day about Peet saying he wants Dupree to stand out and not fit in nailed where I’m at with our signings.
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| How do you drop Nsemba for Farrell?
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| Quote ="Cherry_Warrior"Doing my best to like Walters but he just pi££es me off with his lethargic runs. He is 6ft 7, get him on some 1000 calorie shakes in the off season and lock the door to the gym with him inside of it and don't let him out until he can lift more than a cotton bud.'"
It needs someone to stick one on him and see if he’s got anything about him. Nsemba has ruined any reputation Walters had as a player with promise this season.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Thought Byrne was good tonight, Dupree and Walters generally fine bar Walters getting caught for Catalans' first try.'"
It was Byrnes best game in a while. In fact I thought all 3 props on the bench were better tonight.
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| The more I watch Walters, the more I just don't see a Wigan player but there is time for that to change. He doesn't look to have that switch he can flick, that many of our players do, where they go in to that big game mode of concentrating and playing with pace and intensity.
The back end of this season and pre season next year could make or break things for him.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"The more I watch Walters, the more I just don't see a Wigan player but there is time for that to change. He doesn't look to have that switch he can flick, that many of our players do, where they go in to that big game mode of concentrating and playing with pace and intensity.
The back end of this season and pre season next year could make or break things for him.'"
Spot on. Someone like Ellis has that switch but his drop off from his best isn’t that great. A few from the highlight reel for Walters last year and I think we’ve ended up expecting too much of him and he just doesn’t have what it takes. He won’t be the first to freeze in the shirt but I’m sure the club will give him some very honest feedback.
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| Quote ="DannyT"Spot on. Someone like Ellis has that switch but his drop off from his best isn’t that great. A few from the highlight reel for Walters last year and I think we’ve ended up expecting too much of him and he just doesn’t have what it takes. He won’t be the first to freeze in the shirt but I’m sure the club will give him some very honest feedback.'"
The injury didn't help and I do think he can turn it but he is really going to need to improve his concentration and intensity. He looks half asleep at times and that isn't what you expect from any Wigan forward. Ultimately it'll be up to him but we managed to turn Mago around, so it's not beyond the realms.
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| John Davidson has said tonight Forber to Salford is a done deal.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"John Davidson has said tonight Forber to Salford is a done deal.'"
Getting another good player from Wigan. Frustrating but you cannot see the future when it comes to long term injuries and the kid clearly needs to play.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"John Davidson has said tonight Forber to Salford is a done deal.'"
I never understood the 4 year deal for Leeming with Forber in the wings so to speak. O’Neil is a top class player and a future captain but I suspect he will eventually end up at 13. For me Forber could be another Martin Dermott in terms of his natural ability and his great fast accurate ptb. We’ve cocked up big style when he goes.
A great win tonight after a very iffy first half. Nsemba just keeps on improving.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"How do you drop Nsemba for Farrell?'"
You don’t. Farrell to the right hand side and keep Nsemba on the left.
Farrell has been a great player for us but the new kid is in town. Farrell is such a professional he probably won’t even shrug his shoulders at the thought. Farrell is the epitome of a team player and if it is the right thing for the team for him to move to the right hand side I’m pretty certain he will be fine with the change. It’s a great “problem” for Peet to deliberate but whatever he goes with you’ve got to accept that he knows best.
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| Yeah definitely Faz to fill in on the RHS if fit.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"It was Byrnes best game in a while. In fact I thought all 3 props on the bench were better tonight.'"
I’ve been quite vocal in my criticism of Mago but to be fair I thought he looked good tonight when he came on. Agree with you on Byrne and I’m pretty pleased that he looked more effective tonight compared to his previous performances. Hopefully Peet and his staff have got us turning the corner at the right time.
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| Just back at the hotel from the game. Terrific atmosphere reminiscent of old Wembley. Nsemba was brilliant and if we've let Forber go to Salford we've cocked up big time. Fantastic day but not seen the game back yet so you lot probably know more than me!
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| So now my main takeaway from the game is regret if we're losing Forber.
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