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| Quote ="Geoff"I don't think it is. This season has shown just how much depth we need, especially in the forwards, just to cover injuries. We're not really increasing the number over last year, with Lima a replacement for Feca & Hoffman for Bails, and there's no reason to expect that next year will be any better, injury wise.'"
Totally agree.
I would much prefer to go into next year with a larger squad than a smaller squad, even at the expense of a specialist hooker.
Strength in depth, not individual performances has given us the edge over other squads this year.
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| In terms of second rowers, Hock, Mossop and maybe even Hansen could all move to front row so don't count a player like Tuson or even the likes of Greg Burke and Jonny Walker out.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"In terms of second rowers, Hock, Mossop and maybe even Hansen could all move to front row so don't count a player like Tuson or even the likes of Greg Burke and Jonny Walker out.'"
Jonny Walker has been released
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| Quote ="Folly Field"icon_biggrin.gif I suppose you will get that on a forum which includes opposition fans.
One intersting point is that most reckon Finch plays best with a playmaking scrum half next to him. This could be an issue if we put Tommy to 9 and deacon retires. Would Finch and Sam make a highly effective half back pairing? I have my doubts. And, as some have already stated, i think a new quality 9, with Tommy and sam as halves, is needed to complete our squad for next year.'"
To be fair playing next to Cooper Cronk will make most stand-offs look better. Finch has been signed to play in the halves so that's where he'll play
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| Quote ="RICHARD5LEGEND"Jonny Walker has been released'"
So who has the lowest body fat percentage at the club now?
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"In terms of second rowers, Hock, Mossop and maybe even Hansen could all move to front row so don't count a player like Tuson or even the likes of Greg Burke and Jonny Walker out.'"
We have to put Gareth Hock to the back of our minds for 2011. He wont be returning till mid-season & it will take him at least a month IMO to get anything like up to match fitness, as well as fitting in with the structures of the team and also he will have to force his way in the side!
Lee Mossop is seen as a prop forward in the long-term by the club.
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| Give Tommy time at 9. He performed better at 9 than at 7 for NZ. Over time we'll all be saying how's he's a better 9 than 7, I strongly believe he can excel at hooker becoming one of the best in our game.
This season he's been rescued as a 7 by Sam and Deacon who can both organise a team, as did Barrett. Tommy's better making the darting runs as a live wire. Finch, Sam or Deacon will all be better in the halves driving the team around the park.
Personally I'd like to see Sam continue at FB (I do remember certain members on here slating me when I suggested it over a year ago) as for me he's the best FB in the league having a free role in attack linking up where he likes.
Finch at 6/7 it doesn't matter if we play split halves. with maybe Mellor working his way into the team as Deacon makes his way out.
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| there is a thread running on the giants site they have signed stefan ratchford. have me missed a trick with this lad. iirc we were linked with him earlier in the year ???
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| Quote ="lothlorian"there is a thread running on the giants site they have signed stefan ratchford. have me missed a trick with this lad. iirc we were linked with him earlier in the year ???'"
its a wind up by him, he did it last year saying he had gone to wakey.
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| theres no evidence other than his own facebook profile (appearently). like you say though could be a wind up !!!
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| Decent player is ratchford.
but we have top young lads coming through who deserves there chance before we start bringing players like ratchford in.
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| Quote ="lothlorian"theres no evidence other than his own facebook profile (appearently). like you say though could be a wind up !!!'"
Done as part of "Mad Monday" by a few of the Salford players apparently.
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| Suggestion on mikes site that Saints are after Mcllorum...
Anybody know anything of this?
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| Quote ="the-Bowtun-Warrior"Suggestion on mikes site that Saints are after Mcllorum...
Anybody know anything of this?'"
They've struggled to accomodate 3 hookers this year. I'm sure there's no truth in this.
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| But KFC goes in a dew weeks....
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| Quote ="the-Bowtun-Warrior"But KFC goes in a dew weeks....'"
and next year they'll have 3 hookers again if they sign McIllorum. Ignore the rumour.
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| Hmmmm
Hope so!
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| Hmm, well a certain poster on here with a very good source close to Scott Moore asked about people's opinions of him signing for Wigan.
I know McIlorum isn't the most angelic player.
Straight swap, anybody?
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| Quote ="ABP'"Hmm, well a certain poster on here with a very good source close to Scott Moore asked about people's opinions of him signing for Wigan.
I know McIlorum isn't the most angelic player.
Straight swap, anybody?
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I thought this also....(honest!!)
I know that this is pure speculation ( ) but personally i would prefer to see how MM gets on.
Scott Moore as perhaps fallen by the wayside a little since his return to Saints, but i am sure that the other MM would get the most out of him?
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| I hope this aint happening, i much prefer MM to Moore.
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| Wouldn't be the worst deal IMO. Mickey Mac is a solid player who will get better but his injury record is poor. Scott Moore has suffered at Saints this year because he's been shunted around positionally to accomodate Cunningham and Roby when all three have been fit, often playing in the halves. Moore showed at Huddersfield the year before that he's a quality hooker though and is also an 80-minute player there, which would be good for us as it means Tommy can stay at 7. All speculation at the minute mind but I'd be far happier with our recruitment next year if a genuine replacement for Piggy comes in
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| Moore for McIllorum would be outstanding business.
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| Scott Moore has been found out as a very limited rugby player who has problems just catching and passing the ball. Tomorrow night they are without Lomax/Eastmond/Pryce and he isnt even in the 17. Should be nowhere near Wigan's side
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| Quote ="bazdev"Scott Moore has been found out as a very limited rugby player who has problems just catching and passing the ball. Tomorrow night they are without Lomax/Eastmond/Pryce and he isnt even in the 17. Should be nowhere near Wigan's side'"
Agreed. I don't rate Scott Moore one bit, and I feel next year he'll be exposed for just how poor he is.
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| The Scott Moore of Huddersfield, absolutely.
The Scott Moore of Saints, shney.
We've seen the ability and the potential of Scott Moore in a Giants shirt. I think the reason he's been average this year is because of the pressure piled on him to fill Kieron Cunningham's shoes, a St Helens legend.
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