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| Quote ="markyp3172"McD bitching about SW
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Hilarious stuff
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| Quote ="Conroy"I'll be honest, I'm surprised he got a ban even if it was a lenient one.'"
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| Quote ="markyp3172"McD bitching about SW
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That's us into the Grand Final then!
How Leeds can even defend what McGuire did is a joke. We are going to take it to Leeds now and I fear for them. Only thing playing into their hands at the moment is the weather.
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| Quote ="Conroy"I'll be honest, I'm surprised he got a ban even if it was a lenient one.'"
If all the conspiracies are correct about us not getting a fair crack from the disciplinary panel especially ensuring that MM was not able to play 3 games as well as almost a full game against Saints then the panel have screwed themselves. They had to ban him for Fridays game they had no choice as Wane actually did the right thing and started saying things publicly as otherwise he would have just had a fine. Way too often in SL coaches say nothing and let teams get away with it. The NRL they are more vocal about each others sides.
How can the panel only give McGuire 1 match for an offence on the 1-2 game category but MM is having technically a 4 game ban. I bet someone on that panel at this moment in time is regretting not giving MM less so they could free up McGuire to play on Friday.
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| So Wane was able to influence the panel this week, but wasn't able to influence the panel when it was McIlorum?
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| Quote ="markyp3172"McD bitching about SW
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Funny how some people have nothing to say if it’s Wigan getting the mucky end of the stick. I can’t wait to get home on Friday after the game to hear what’s said then, it could end up being just as exciting as the game itself. Hope it’s a good clean game though; I’m fed up to the back teeth with all these cards and bans.
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| McDermott seems to miss the fact he'd had his say as well in the build up to the decision.
If he wants to compare it to a legal trial then maybe he should have kept quiet as well. It'd be like a witness to a murder saying in the build up to the trial 'yeah I saw him stab her in the head with those scissors but honestly he was just trying to cut her hair and slipped, he's a good lad really'.
He can't have it both ways.
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| They're getting a bit stressed on the VT too now.
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| Boo hoo Brian
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| Quote ="Deano G"They're getting a bit stressed on the VT too now.
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I'd have banned Both players for a season and fined both coaches £ 50 K , essentially
Leeds and your lot are the 2 most niggly , dirty , cheating teams in SL , hopefully you will knock seven bells out of each other and whichever team makes the GF has to play half a team of academy players in that match
All the best
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"So Wane was able to influence the panel this week, but wasn't able to influence the panel when it was McIlorum?'"
And I quote "
=#FF0000"We considered an appeal," he said. "There was a bit of merit in doing that. But we thought they gave us a fair hearing. Sometimes you come out thinking you might as well have not turned up but, in fairness to the panel, they listened.
"I felt we put up a good case and I think it went as well as it could have done. If we did anything, we probably got it down from a two-game ban to one game.
"Unfortunately, with what's been said in the media building up to it, it would have been a tough call to not ban him.
"I'm just not sure that in any legal case you'd be allowed to say what you want in the media building up to it."
Which loosely translated means Shaun Wane influenced the panel by getting them to give Danny Maguire a Ban that was less than what his own coach thought he should get?
Plus he doesn't think you can influence any legal case by speaking to the media about it before hand even though He was the one that brought it up in the first place saying he shouldnt get banned for a tackle that he thought "later"he was lucky if anything to get down to a 1 game ban from a 2?
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| To be fair, if the Disciplinary Panel didn't have a history of showing leniency towards Leeds players, I doubt SW would have even commented on it. Like most people on here, I'm sure he was also expecting McGuire to ridiculously get no ban for what he did.
Right decision, move on.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"And I quote "
=#FF0000"We considered an appeal," he said. "There was a bit of merit in doing that. But we thought they gave us a fair hearing. Sometimes you come out thinking you might as well have not turned up but, in fairness to the panel, they listened.
"I felt we put up a good case and I think it went as well as it could have done. If we did anything, we probably got it down from a two-game ban to one game.
"Unfortunately, with what's been said in the media building up to it, it would have been a tough call to not ban him.
"I'm just not sure that in any legal case you'd be allowed to say what you want in the media building up to it."
Which loosely translated means Shaun Wane influenced the panel by getting them to give Danny Maguire a Ban that was less than what his own coach thought he should get?
Plus he doesn't think you can influence any legal case by speaking to the media about it before hand even though He was the one that brought it up in the first place saying he shouldnt get banned for a tackle that he thought "later"he was lucky if anything to get down to a 1 game ban from a 2?
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So many holes in that story you could get Solomona throught the gap
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| Brian McDermott is essentially claiming the judiciary was influenced by Wane and the media, what's worse having an opinion on an illegal on-field play or effectively claiming the governing body is corrupt and influenced by opposition coaches?
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"Brian McDermott is essentially claiming the judiciary was influenced by Wane and the media, what's worse having an opinion on an illegal on-field play or effectively claiming the governing body is corrupt and influenced by opposition coaches?'"
If that opinion has no credibilty because it is the opinion of a hypocrit, then both are worthless
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| It was an illegal stiff arm to the head FFS! Wane wanted consistancy after McIllorum was handed the harshest ban possible for his challenge. If anything McGuire got away lightly with just one match. Wind your neck in McDermott.
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| Sinfield's having a dig now.
The most worrying thing is now Wane has fired him up to make another one of those cringing speeches should they get through and win at Old Trafford. The one where he'll thank everyone for firing them up on route via their criticism and thank their support for 'sticking by them'.
If sticking by them means slating the coach and certain players for 95% of the season and hardly any bothering to turn up for Challenge cup semis and finals I'm backing him all the way!
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Sinfield's having a dig now.
The most worrying thing is now Wane has fired him up to make another one of those cringing speeches should they get through and win at Old Trafford. The one where he'll thank everyone for firing them up on route via their criticism and thank their support for 'sticking by them'.
If sticking by them means slating the coach and certain players for 95% of the season and hardly any bothering to turn up for Challenge cup semis and finals I'm backing him all the way!'"
I quite liked that speech last year and would have probably said something similar myself in that position. They'd been told by practically everyone that they were crap and would win nothing. We were meant to destroy them at Wembley and they were supposed to limp out the playoffs. Good on him I say. The only difference I'd want Wigan to make would be to discredit the playoffs and refuse to celebrate, but that would never happen.
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| Quote ="Conroy"I quite liked that speech last year and would have probably said something similar myself in that position. They'd been told by practically everyone that they were crap and would win nothing. We were meant to destroy them at Wembley and they were supposed to limp out the playoffs. Good on him I say. The only difference I'd want Wigan to make would be to discredit the playoffs and refuse to celebrate, but that would never happen.'"
It was fine until he started bigging the Leeds fans up.
They'd been their biggest critics and the ones that had heaped the most pressure on. They proved this by not turning out for the CC final against us and calling for the coaches head constantly(and some players).
Have a go at your detractors all you want but don't spoil it by praising your biggest ones.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"It was fine until he started bigging the Leeds fans up.
They'd been their biggest critics and the ones that had heaped the most pressure on. They proved this by not turning out for the CC final against us and calling for the coaches head constantly(and some players).
Have a go at your detractors all you want but don't spoil it by praising your biggest ones.'"
True about the fans. Some of them still think the players won the final and not Brian Mac. I quite like McDermott though he adds some comedy to his interviews. Loved his neighbours comment before last years semi.
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| Quote ="pies-r-us"Funny how some people have nothing to say if it’s Wigan getting the mucky end of the stick. I can’t wait to get home on Friday after the game to hear what’s said then, it could end up being just as exciting as the game itself. Hope it’s a good clean game though; I’m fed up to the back teeth with all these cards and bans.'"
I reckon it's unlikely to be a clean game, Bailey at loose forward shoes their intentions. I can see someone else sitting out the final.
The problem stems form the stupid way the handbags were treated at MM, with every subsequent decision made in order to justify this.
Knowing the RL they'll sweep it all under the carpet at the start of next season and move on with their next batch of "interpretations".
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| Quote ="Finfin"I reckon it's unlikely to be a clean game'"
That's an understatement.
I think we'll win but our lack of discipline when facing a side who push the envelope in the way Leeds do may mean we have half the side up before the tribunal next week....
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"Brian McDermott is essentially claiming the judiciary was influenced by Wane and the media, what's worse having an opinion on an illegal on-field play or effectively claiming the governing body is corrupt and influenced by opposition coaches?'"
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