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| Finch came back from injury, Hock is coming back from 2 years of training in the gym, I bet Madge and Wane have had him on a pre-season style of training since he came back and I bet he will find his feet pretty quick.
However I don't think we should expect his best rugby straight away. I think we may have to put up with him dropping a few balls and a few missed tackles untill he gets used to the systems.
If he can find some of his old form though we have a world class player on our hands. We also have the sh*t house people have wanted for years.
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| [urlhttp://www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-warriors/maguire_wants_forwards_to_step_on_the_gaz_1_3489414[/url
Quote MICHAEL Maguire is banking on the Gaz factor bringing out the best of his forwards tonight!
The coach says the battle for domination between the two packs will be crucial in deciding who will win the mouth-watering derby against St Helens (kick-off 8pm).
And if the two points and bragging rights weren’t enough incentive for the Warriors forwards, Maguire reckons the pending return of Gareth Hock should ratchet up the performance levels another notch.
Hock is back in the frame next week after a two-year doping ban and, if as expected he is thrust straight back into the spotlight, one of the current stars will have to miss out.
Maguire prides himself on picking his teams on form, making the televised blockbuster at Widnes’ Stobart Stadium this evening the last chance for players to tighten their grip on first-team spots.
He said: “It’s going to be a great headache next week when Gaz is back.
“All the players know he’s doing everything he can, he’s doing great at training and he’s really busting to play a game again.
“He’s been training at both prop and second-row, he’s very capable of both, so that’s going to really give some good competition.”'"
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| After that performance tonight, who would you drop to give Hock a bench spot?
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| Quote ="MattyB"After that performance tonight, who would you drop to give Hock a bench spot?'"
Has to be Tuson, I guess.
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| Quote ="MattyB"After that performance tonight, who would you drop to give Hock a bench spot?'"
Tuson.
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| I'd be very surprised to see Hock thrown into the deep end next week.
Would absolutely love to see him play though.
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| Tuson played for about 20 minutes tonight from memory so I see no reason why Hock couldn't manage that next week.
I like Tuson and he was better tonight but he's got things to work on and a little rest will do him no harm.
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| Quote ="Charlotte"Who's dropped to make way for Hock though? Hansen, Hoffman or Faz?'"
Faz isnt making the side for Tuson at the mo.
so i reckon Tuson will make way
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| Would definitely be Tuson though I thought he played very well tonight. Still think Farrell is being a bit unlucky to miss out. Maguire isnt usually one to change a winning team so I wouldnt be suprised if Hock isnt in the 17 next week though I really hope he is!
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"Would definitely be Tuson though I thought he played very well tonight. Still think Farrell is being a bit unlucky to miss out. Maguire isnt usually one to change a winning team so I wouldnt be suprised if Hock isnt in the 17 next week though I really hope he is!'"
Same for me . If a forward drops out you bring Farrell in IMO.
Hock has to earn his place in the under 21's first .
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Finch came back from injury, Hock is coming back from 2 years of training in the gym, I bet Madge and Wane have had him on a pre-season style of training since he came back and I bet he will find his feet pretty quick.
However I don't think we should expect his best rugby straight away. I think we may have to put up with him dropping a few balls and a few missed tackles untill he gets used to the systems.
If he can find some of his old form though we have a world class player on our hands. We also have the sh*t house people have wanted for years.'"
Agree with all that.
I am sure Madge will have briefed him to run straight, tackle hard and DO NOT offload. I expect him to go ball out for perhaps 2 10 minute sessions, safe in the knowledge that he will get rested during the game.
Let him get his feet back and allow more expression in his game.
I dont expect a world beating performance, but i must admit i will a little peeved if i don not see 100% effort.
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| I think Hock will get a bit of game time in the nines at Whitehaven on Tuesday week and get a bench spot for the Cas game on 6th July.
Think about it from a commercial pov.
Huddersfield, tickets selling well, THr Big One Three.
Leeds, the Sam Tomkins booing factor.
Cas, Hock makes his return. It'll add a couple of thousand on the attendance on a Wednesday night.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I think Hock will get a bit of game time in the nines at Whitehaven on Tuesday week and get a bench spot for the Cas game on 6th July.
Think about it from a commercial pov.
Huddersfield, tickets selling well, THr Big One Three.
Leeds, the Sam Tomkins booing factor.
Cas, Hock makes his return. It'll add a couple of thousand on the attendance on a Wednesday night.'"
Personally I dont think Maguire is the kind of coach that would even think about attendances when picking his best 17, or even let anyone (IL) push him in that direction
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| the only reason were on sky this week i think is not cause the big one cause sky want too have a hock return on tv they wouldnt snub leeds v bradford for nothing would they
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| Quote ="Big Mike's Kb"the only reason were on sky this week i think is not cause the big one cause sky want too have a hock return on tv they wouldnt snub leeds v bradford for nothing would they'"
Yes Leeds vs Bradford has been a shte game for a long time now, there has been plenty occasions when its not been on TV.
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| Simply cannot wait to see Gaz in action again! I've seen him in the gym and he looked like a brick outhouse. Let's get Hudds on the pitch and, to quote Maximus Decimus Meridius, unleash Hell!
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| Quote ="The Ginger Pearl"I'd be very surprised to see Hock thrown into the deep end next week.
Would absolutely love to see him play though.'"
I think that Hock will definitely play next week because Wigan will want him to build up his fitness towards the Warrington cup game which will be our hardest game this season and saying that I include the World Club Challenge, the Wembley Final (if we get there) and the Grand Final (when we get there).
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I think Hock will get a bit of game time in the nines at Whitehaven on Tuesday week and get a bench spot for the Cas game on 6th July.
Think about it from a commercial pov.
Huddersfield, tickets selling well, THr Big One Three.
Leeds, the Sam Tomkins booing factor.
Cas, Hock makes his return. It'll add a couple of thousand on the attendance on a Wednesday night.'"
Can't agree, Rogue. He and we have waited two years and it's imperative to our assault on the lucrative Challenge Cup that he starts asap.
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| Sadly there's no reserve games for a while so it's likely he'll be chucked straight in. Hope he can make an impact and repay the club for standing by him.
If his ban would have ended before Tuesday they could have played him in the 9's but sadly not.
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| Really want to see Hock playing this weekend, but not at the expense of anyone who played against the Stains; they were huge and deserve their places again this week.
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| Really hope Hock get's a game, can't wait
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| Hock is playing
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| Think he will be on the bench, he needs to feature in the 17 as we need to get some game time into him, to build his match fitness and match awareness up for the big games ahead.
Can't wait!
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| Went to the Quins game on Saturday and was chatting about Hock in the pub with some mates.
Looking forward to seeing him back - he looks in ridiculous shape and should be a shoe in for England at the end of the year if he can get to anything like previous form.
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