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| Quote ="CM Punk"At least this will be forgotten in future years, unlike the classic Phil Bailey thread.'"
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| Quote ="post"Kids weren't affected by any previous strains, Omicron is milder, so why.would someone want to get their kids jabbed unless they were scared into doing so?
A lot of my mates kids have had it, prob about 10 to 12 kids and all of them have had no symptoms or just a sniffle. So why subject them to gene therapy? Which in 2002 led to the children who recieved gene therapy to develop leukemia 2 years later?
I followed covid closely up until recently when I left the NHS, those hospital numbers aren't and have never been what people think. Hospital aquired infection was roughly 30% at least sometimes went up to 50%, so someone in hospital for a longer period of time would end up catching it but not in hospital due to it as some people think when they see the figures. With omIcron spreading easier due to the viral load being higher and in the bronchial passage its easier and faster spread so guess what? Those hospital numbers are higher.
Trust your own eyes and ears, what have the kids been like who you know with covid? Dont listen to the figures or the politicians.'"
my daughter was quite ill from it
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| How is this still going?
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| Quote ="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"It's on here - I'll let you do your own research.'"
Had a feeling that would be your response, you not want to help the conversation along anymore then.
I will just assume then based on the fact you posted the table on kids covid that you would want all children vaccinated and when asked direct questions on your view you fail to answer it.
If I have in fact got this wrong then you just need to say
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| Quote ="WiganRL12345"Had a feeling that would be your response, you not want to help the conversation along anymore then.
I will just assume then based on the fact you posted the table on kids covid that you would want all children vaccinated and when asked direct questions on your view you fail to answer it.
If I have in fact got this wrong then you just need to say'"
I've previously said you've got it wrong, you just keep ignoring it.
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| Quote ="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"I've previously said you've got it wrong, you just keep ignoring it.'"
So you don’t want to vaccinate children?
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| Quote ="WiganRL12345"So you don’t want to vaccinate children?'"
I've never said that. Wrong again - bit of a habit for you isn't it?
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| Quote ="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"I've never said that. Wrong again - bit of a habit for you isn't it?'"
That was a question directed at you to get an answer not a statement. You seem to struggle with answering questions.
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| Quote ="WiganRL12345"That was a question directed at you to get an answer not a statement. You seem to struggle with answering questions.'"
All the answers to your "questions" are in this thread. You obviously don't like them - which is why we keep getting all the straw man "questions". It's what you're done the whole thread. I suggest a new strategy.
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| Quote ="DannyT"How is this still going?'"
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| Quote ="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"All the answers to your "questions" are in this thread. You obviously don't like them - which is why we keep getting all the straw man "questions". It's what you're done the whole thread. I suggest a new strategy.'"
I don’t know what they are because you don’t say when asked directly. How can I not like them if I don’t know what they are.
All I want to know is your view and reason for posting a table showing hospital admissions for children that are unvaccinated. It’s really not that hard
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| anyway deltacron is on its way from cyprus
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| Quote ="knockonknockon"anyway deltacron is on its way from cyprus
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Luckily I am jabbed, as is the wife and our 3 young children so we should be fine.
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| Quote ="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"
When it comes to epidemics, I tend to listen what epidemiologists say..'"
Why would you want to do that, when you can listen to a load of people on the internet, with barely a BTEC between them, who are obviously experts.
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| Quote ="knockonknockon"anyway deltacron is on its way from cyprus
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Cyprus as confirmed to say it is a load of Boll-cks.
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"Why would you want to do that, when you can listen to a load of people on the internet, with barely a BTEC between them, who are obviously experts.'"
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| Quote ="Sweaty Betty's"Like Neil Ferguson?
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| From the BBC. Is it just another cold or flu? Doesn’t read so to me. And these figures would have been much worse without lockdowns, vaccinations, masks etc.
According to the Office for National Statistics, approximately 665,000 deaths were registered in the UK in 2021.
That is nearly 25,000 fewer than the year before, but still about 10% higher than the average seen in the five years before the pandemic.
That “excess” of deaths was the second highest figure since World War Two (after 2020).
Comparing last year’s figures to the five years before the pandemic takes account of the changes in population size, age and healthcare that would otherwise make it impossible to compare the raw numbers from the 2020s with those from, say, the 1970s.
The last two years have been exceptional by historical standards. Death rates normally fall over time, so any increase is unusual, but this change does not return us to the death rates of WW2.
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| During this pandemic i have carried around a pocket full of large quartz crystals, and pieces of obsidian a type of glass like lava to protect me...
I throw them at Anti-Vaxxers...
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| I don’t think anyone would argue that COVID has been a simple cold (conspiracy theorists excepted). But it will become a normal winter illness to manage. That’s just how these things work.
With regards to when it’s officially become endemic, I use Nicola Sturgeon as my measuring tool. She’s anti-UK and anti-Boris, and she’s been dead against the speed at which we’re opening up and dropping restrictions. The fact that she’s just announced that Scots should accept it’s becoming endemic suggests to me it’s pretty much done and dusted and we’re all moving on. I’m sure it has nothing to do with the Six Nations, whatever that is.
Hopefully this season will go nice and smoothly now, but respectfully towards those who are still anxious.
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| Quiet in here since some facts have been posted
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| Quote ="nathan_rugby"Quiet in here since some facts have been posted'"
nah, its just all the s are too ill to post, as they are in bed with omicron
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| Quote ="nikos"nah, its just all the s are too ill to post, as they are in bed with omicron'"
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| Quote ="nathan_rugby"Quiet in here since some facts have been posted'"
You were quiet on here when asked some pertinent questions which you have still not answered!
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| Quote ="nathan_rugby":1zmfc51qQuiet in here since some facts have been posted'" Ferguson was behind the disputed research that sparked the mass culling of eleven million sheep and cattle during the 2001 outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease. He also predicted that up to 150,000 people could die. There were fewer than 200 deaths. . . .
In 2002, Ferguson predicted that up to 50,000 people would likely die from exposure to BSE (mad cow disease) in beef. In the U.K., there were only 177 deaths from BSE.
In 2005, Ferguson predicted that up to 150 million people could be killed from bird flu. In the end, only 282 people died worldwide from the disease between 2003 and 2009.
In 2009, a government estimate, based on Ferguson’s advice, said a “reasonable worst-case scenario” was that the swine flu would lead to 65,000 British deaths. In the end, swine flu killed 457 people in the U.K.
Last March, Ferguson admitted that his Imperial College model of the COVID-19 disease was based on undocumented, 13-year-old computer code that was intended to be used for a feared influenza pandemic, rather than a coronavirus. Ferguson declined to release his original code so other scientists could check his results.
So the real scandal is: Why did anyone ever listen to this guy?'
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