Because we don't let teams score tries like that in the big games like this under Maguire. He will not be allowed to just stroll through.

Just like Leeds won't be allowed to score some tries like they did against Hudds, because they are playing wire.

The over confidence from wigan fans on here is laughable. Saints have made 5 consecutive grand finals. Do you know how hard that is?

You've had to fight tooth and nail just to make 1 in the 7 last years. Well whoopdy f*cking doo. You were not excellent by any stretch of the imagination tonight. The game as a whole lacked any real playoff intensity. Catalans were cumbersome and generally knackered. A fresher better team would have been 2 scores up on wigan in that opening 20. Just 5 mins into the second half nearly half of catalans team couldn't be bothered to get back onside until about the 4th play.

Does that not ring alarm bells about the determination and intensity of the team you were playing?

If you want to stay in this mystical fairytale world of sugar and lollipops where wigan were great tonight and look set to put saints to the sword next week then by all means, but don't indulge the rest of the rugby league world in this fantasy.

Okay, so a fairer score would have been 44-12.

Are you less worried now?

Pass was forward even you should admit that.

I agree the rule should be changed only if the player becomes active should a penalty be given.

You speak about Maguire as if he's god. He's not some all controlling entity, he can't prevent human error and the unpredictability of sport.

You seem to be under the impression wigan are some sort of infallable unstoppable force ''becase they don't let it happen in big games under maguire''.

This line of thought is foolish.

So what you are saying is Wigan were not trying 100% last week.





Blimey

we're trying not to, you're on our board.

5 grand finals... they've lost the last 4 of them haven't they?... oh yeh, 2nd best just like next saturday

I can only presume Maguire didn't clast week as a big enough game.

'Maguire don't let that happen in big games'' you know! His players are error free in big games.

Hmmm so last week wasnt a big game, wigan didnt want the week off, and McGuire allowed us to stroll through....lol !!

The penalty count kept you in the game, with two of the other three there was a cigarette paper between the two sides. Laughable comments, expect Dixon and Armstrong to make way for Flannery and one of Wheeler, Pryce or Eastmond.

Next week will be very, very close and the weeks rest will benefit St.Helens. Commendable bravado but borderline stupidity.

See you Saturday......Saints v Wire final.

Yeah, and we won 8 Wembleys in a row, something you lot have never even got close to. And you know what, it's just as irrelevant to next weekend as your 5 Grand Finals, 4 of which you lost - I'd imagine that's pretty hard to do as well.

Let's not open that can of worms eh?

I'm not saying it's relevant, It's just strange over confidence in the face of a team that has such a good record of winning these matches.

Let's be kind and call it 'supportive bravado'.

Funny how the tune has changed!

All because they tonked a knackered Dragons side who lost two players to injury within the first twenty minutes and who never looked likely to run further than about five metres without expiring.


Damn right it did. All of their tries came off the back of being piggybacked up the field! We won't let them have those tries again on Saturday! They will have to play much better than they did today to beat us.

Thats exactly what it says in my post.... stop making things up.

Well, actually I am saying we were poor last week but I know (having seen us under Maguire in these games) that we will not be playing like that on saturday.

It wouldn't have been 44-12 had they both been given.

You were poor last week because Saints made you look poor. We did what you try to do and that is get up into the oppositions faces. Wigan couldn't take it last week.

Wigan v Leeds at OT, another CC final rerun. bring it on.

You scared of Warrington then?

Why would we be scared of Warrington if Leeds could beat them?

No we were poor last week as we were in a poor run of from. Last week was more to do with us been poor than anything else. Keep believing you made us look bad but we made ourselves look bad.

No, i just think Leeds will do the playoff bottlers Warrington.

Wigan were appalling last week all through their own doing. We made errors we've not made in 2 years due to mentally not being up for it.

It won't happen again but don't take that as me writing Saints off. I think you can play better then last week but you'll have to. Wigans defence hurt the Catalans physically tonight and they're a bigger side then Saints.

Fantastic draw. We were absolutely atrocious last week and were still 8 points in it. We'll have no probs annihilating Saints next week. See you all at Old Trafford!

Half of the game tonight was spent trying to put Catalan players out of the game and you succeded to a point. If those players had managed to stay on the pitch it could have been a lot closer.