Don't be confusing him with facts.

Delanay played about 8 mins for England Knights last season v Scotland, Harvie Hill played about 10 mins in the same game. Two very good young prospects but nowhere near England selection yet.

Walters is better than both of them at this time.

Some great stats from Walters again from yesterday. Scored a try again and got through a lot of work with 134 meters and 38 tackles. I thought when we signed him and I watched him a little closer we had signed a diamond in the rough who showed brilliant flashes and has potential to be top quality, it’s becoming more evident now he’s being given more game time at Leeds that he’s very close to being top quality already and if he can improve more sky is the limit for the lad.

The NRL is the limit

Unfortunately for us yeah.

Walters looks class - great pick up from Wigan, no idea what Leeds are playing at.

It seemed like Smith didn’t rate parts of his game and was trying to make him “earn” his place in the side while sticking with senior players who don’t look anywhere near his level, it’s backfired massively, although he may have come across anyway with him being a Widnes lad he might have wanted to be closer to home?

We thought we had him over the line when he signed for Leeds.

I think he would have come had we not signed KPP a couple of days before. I think we were his preferred destination back then until we signed KPP at which point I think he was advised that 2 into 1 slot doesn’t go by his manager and so took on his less preferred option of Leeds.

And coming over to us with his mate O`Connor helped his decision.
It`s right Smith rated him but was preferring the older players and Walters felt he wasn`t getting a chance and orchestrated the move away.
Not long after that and due to injuries he found himself playing in the first team on a regular basis.
I reckon had that happened sooner he would have stayed.
But as Smith stated the younger lads like to get their future sorted early.
Fwiw I reckon he will be a great player either playing out wide and eventually as a prop similar to JP.

I bloody well hope so! We havent had one of those in a LONG time

Clearly he will move full time to prop at some point but to get to JP levels, you need an incredible desire, attitude and will to win. He’s probably more naturally talented than an early days JP but Peacock was a freak in terms of the drive he displayed, that took him so far. The game really looks to be losing those type of Peacock, James Graham, Gaz Ellis characters, the ones who push themselves way past their levels of natural ability.

I agree he does look like he has more natural ability,but the desire to get to the top we will have to wait and see.
The games I have seen him play sometimes he is head and shoulders above the rest (literally).

Cant wait for next season,after we have won the GF this season of course

If it's true that his favoured position is 2nd row, I think he'll try to establish himself there first. He's clearly capable of playing prop but seems far more dangerous running wider channels. He runs some great lines. My guess is he'll be an almost direct replacement for KPP who has shown he can also play prop very well this season.

I can't see there being a permanent move to prop from either any time soon though.

I think the next signing we make will be a big indicator, if we don’t sign another second rower or keep on Isa he will have to play second row almost exclusively you would think.

Having lost and not replaced Bateman and losing KPP and also Isa I’d say even with Walters we need another secondrow.

Nsemba steps up once more but unless we bring in 1 more that still leaves us with 3 including Walters.

Farrell
Walters
Shorrocks
Nsemba

Don't really follow our youngsters anymore so not sure if there is anybody else ready to step up to a 5th choice? Should hopefully be enough if so.

We definitely need an experienced second rower IMO. I don’t think Shorrocks offers enough there, Walters may or may not play there and Nsemba is too young to rely on week to week. If it wasn’t for the injuries this season, I wouldn’t be against keeping Isa on but with those niggles and him taking a quota spot, I think it’d probably be better used elsewhere.

It is a difficult one, as i agree another experienced second row would be great. I was surprised we didn't go for Lachlan Fitzgibbon from Newcastle Knights. If we were after another Second Row he would have been ideal and exactly what we needed in my opinion. I may have missed it, but i don't think we even got linked with signing him.

Our must buy for next season for me is a recognised Stand Off, i would not feel comfortable going into next season saying French is our number 6 off what we have seen so far. I am only expecting us to make 1 more signing at most for next season looking at who we currently have signed, and i feel that needs to be a Stand Off.

For me, due to team balance and how i see him currently, Walters has to be Second Row, Shorrocks is back up and Nsemba behind him.

I wonder, if the rumours of Olam to Wire are true, if we might end up with King after all. Kerighan to 6 perhaps?

Can't say I'd be over the moon with it as it's still an inexperienced 6 out there. I can't help feel that, with an experienced head at 6, we'd do some serious challenging next year. Alas it won't happen, not like us to have a balanced squad is it.

Would be a brilliant signing for Wire if so. I blow hot and cold on King to be honest. His carries out of our half are great and his offloads create chances but he is prone to throwing them at the worst of times adding unnecessary pressure and often forcing us to scramble for the ball.

I am ecstatic with the signings we have made so far and comfortable with how our team is shaping up for next season, especially if Cooper returns. But the one big hole i keep coming back to is that number 6 jersey and the uncertainty around who is going to be taking up that role and at what level they will play it at. I don't know if i have mentioned it on here but i know i have with my mates, i would even take Blake Austin on a short deal (maybe 1-2 years) just for the stability of somebody who has experience in that position. I also think he was starting to find some good form for Leeds.

Austin is a Mago style con artist. He’s played well when he’s been chasing new contracts and in addition to that, he’s trouble. He isn’t a player I’d expect we’d go near. I do agree though that a 6 is needed. I can’t sit here and say Keighran would be the answer but keeping King and having that option would be nice.

Maybe French at 6 works if we get the pack flying. If Walters, Dupree and whoever are busting holes in teams, French then has more broken field to play in. Until he starts showing a willingness to take the line on more though, it just won’t work.

I’d forgotten about Shorrocks, which to be fair kind of says it all about him.

Don’t get me wrong I do think he brings value as a squad player and I see him very much as a utility rather than a secondrow. I predominantly see him as cover at 13.

If we want a top team I think we need 3 front line secondrow forwards wit 1 youngster supporting that.

I agree and don`t for one minute think he is on a par with JP playing wise.
Peacock started life as a second rower and eventually moved to prop something I think Walters might do.
If you can get half of JP`s desire out of Walters you won`t be disappointed.
I for one and I`m sure many others wish he had stayed.
Seems Bentley might stay though after Catalans had a change of heart.

I think that if Isa doesn't resign we will see further recruitment.

That's rubbing salt into the wound!