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| Quote ="truewiganer"i beg to differ, ignorance like yours in not needed,
I am currently recovering from a ACL reconstruction, from an inoccuous tackle.
at any point in any game someone can be injured, by banning 3 men in a tackle is not really reducing anything,
anyone tackling around the legs, could hurt anyone, are we going to outline tackling below the waist?
how about the defenders doing their ankles in whilst involved in a tackle,
tell ya what lets go the whole hog and make SL tig and pass!'"
I hope so everybody on here will have a chance of playing!
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| Quote ="fantasticwarrior"I hope so everybody on here will have a chance of playing!'"
i dunno, we all might need padding, or be scared incase we break something from being tagged to hard!
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| Quote ="truewiganer"i dunno, we all might need padding, or be scared incase we break something from being tagged to hard!'"
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| Quote ="truewiganer"i beg to differ, ignorance like yours in not needed,
I am currently recovering from a ACL reconstruction, from an inoccuous tackle.
at any point in any game someone can be injured, by banning 3 men in a tackle is not really reducing anything,
anyone tackling around the legs, could hurt anyone, are we going to outline tackling below the waist?
how about the defenders doing their ankles in whilst involved in a tackle,
tell ya what lets go the whole hog and make SL tig and pass!'"
sorry to hear about your injury mate, and i wish you a quick recovery, but you of all people then should understand then.
Any tackle in the game can cause injury, but this 3rd man attacking knee joints etc, is aimed at injuring a player, which is wrong. That was the whole point. I love the contact of the sport as much as the next man, and i think that a good legal tackle can't be beaten, but mathers isn't wrong, if he was, the RFL wouldnt have tried to (or even have) banned the tackle (seems the refs have loosened up on it again).
I would hate nothing more than to see the quality of the league deteriorate by having too many rules, but we need to protect our talent, and if players continue attacking the joints, when others are holding them up then we wont have much talent left.
Again though, i wish you a good healthy recovery.
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| Thanks for ur best wishes,
i agree if anyone attacks the knee it should be outlawed,
but i think this is not a massive problem in the sl,
there have been stupid tackles that have been low, but people actually attacking the knee on perpous i think is rare. Kinda think hes ranting about nothing,
Its my opinion anyway,
I think the grappling and dragging people down round their shoulders/neck area is a much more dangerous and is happening more and more in the game, this is what needs ranting about and clamping down on,
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| Quote ="truewiganer"Thanks for ur best wishes,
i agree if anyone attacks the knee it should be outlawed,
but i think this is not a massive problem in the sl,
there have been stupid tackles that have been low, but people actually attacking the knee on perpous i think is rare. Kinda think hes ranting about nothing,
Its my opinion anyway,
I think the grappling and dragging people down round their shoulders/neck area is a much more dangerous and is happening more and more in the game, this is what needs ranting about and clamping down on,'"
i completely agree that the grapple needs to be outlawed also, i agree that right now it's rare mate, but it has been happening more often i think, but fortunately no really serious injuries (knock on wood) in the SL for any team from it yet, but as i said, yesterday mathers tweeted a pic of a 17 year old lad who wont be able to play again after having it happen to him.
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| My heart goes out to the lad, terrible terrible thing to happen to a young kid,
Im sure mathers is acting more out of emotion on hearing about the lad rather than seriously thinking about it,
the problem occurs i belive when teams start to lift a player, this seems to be exposing the knee,
im not to sure how we can stop it but outlawing the 3 man tackle seems a very fundamental change to the game that will have a massive impact and bring our game more structured and less exciting in my opinion.
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| I think if a professional player feels so strongly that there should be changes made to an aspect of the game, surely he should be approaching the RFL about it? I mean, if he feels that it is such a danger to players (including himself) then he should be putting in a serious complaint to the RFL and actively trying to change the game for the better (in his opinion). He may well have done so already, but having a moan about it on twitter and arguing with people who disagree, whilst changing the basis of his argument (from banning the third man to banning the man below the knee) ironically to call for something that is already outlawed to become outlawed seems a little immature and ill-informed for a professional player, all IMO of course.
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| Remind me how many players have been injured by our 'dirty' tactics?
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| Quote ="Conroy"Remind me how many players have been injured by our 'dirty' tactics?'"
We are obviously breaking "The Spirit" of the tackle... As we did with the cap....
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| Quote ="Conroy"Remind me how many players have been injured by our 'dirty' tactics?'"
Well there was Abletts arm after sam headbutted it. Also I think Mason hurt his foot after standing on Fielden and we can't forget there were several blatant attacks to Hull players as they tried to avoid making contact with Sam earlier in the season. Oh and Danny McGuire was injured by a disgustingly selfish turn of pace by Mr Carmont, showing blatant disregard for the safety of the opposition players around him.
#outlawunbelieveablygoodvalueformoneycentres
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| hang them all,
just terrible attitudes from our player
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| Quote ="Wigan Stu"
I just find a few things amusing about all of this; the tackle that Mathers is on a major crusade and getting a lot of attention about is ALREADY illegal...'"
That's the thing I find the funniest really. He's on a mission to ban something that is already banned. Makes him look a bit silly if thee asks me. Almost as though he isn't too familliar with the rules of the game he is playing.
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| Quote ="Angelus"That's the thing I find the funniest really. He's on a mission to ban something that is already banned. Makes him look a bit silly if thee asks me. Almost as though he isn't too familliar with the rules of the game he is playing.'"
that just shows by the amount of bans hes had for dirty illegal tackles
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| Quote ="Dave26"eusa_think.gif Well there was Abletts arm after sam headbutted it. Also I think Mason hurt his foot after standing on Fielden and we can't forget there were several blatant attacks to Hull players as they tried to avoid making contact with Sam earlier in the season. Oh and Danny McGuire was injured by a disgustingly selfish turn of pace by Mr Carmont, showing blatant disregard for the safety of the opposition players around him.
#outlawunbelieveablygoodvalueformoneycentres'"
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| Quote ="Angelus"That's the thing I find the funniest really. He's on a mission to ban something that is already banned. Makes him look a bit silly if thee asks me. Almost as though he isn't too familliar with the rules of the game he is playing.'"
....about as familiar as he is with catching and keeping hold of a high ball in front of his own try line
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| Quote ="Abacus"....about as familiar as he is with catching and keeping hold of a high ball in front of his own try line
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not that there's any point trying to defend mathers ability to catch a high ball, but he didnt do too bad on the catch he took just before putting it down over the line the other week did he?
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"not that there's any point trying to defend mathers ability to catch a high ball, but he didnt do too bad on the catch he took just before putting it down over the line the other week did he?
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Don't forget he's won 2 challenge cups!
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"not that there's any point trying to defend mathers ability to catch a high ball, but he didnt do too bad on the catch he took just before putting it down over the line the other week did he?
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Agreed - I don't have an issue with that it was a good try that had to be finished well......... but as far as performance as a fullback is concerned....found out at Wigan, found out at yours, and destroyed at Cas two weeks ago, and owned by the Wigan fans.
Yes, as somebody else pointed out he's won two challenge cups, but thank god they put handles on the side, otherwise he would have been really struggling on that bus.
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| Quote ="Abacus"Agreed - I don't have an issue with that it was a good try that had to be finished well......... but as far as performance as a fullback is concerned....found out at Wigan, found out at yours, and destroyed at Cas two weeks ago, and owned by the Wigan fans.
Yes, as somebody else pointed out he's won two challenge cups, but thank god they put handles on the side, otherwise he would have been really struggling on that bus.'"
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| Quote ="Abacus"Yes, as somebody else pointed out he's won two challenge cups, but thank god they put handles on the side, otherwise he would have been really struggling on that bus.'"
that is one of the funniest things i've ever read on here mate.
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| Quote ="Abacus"
Yes, as somebody else pointed out he's won two challenge cups, but thank god they put handles on the side, otherwise he would have been really struggling on that bus.'"
Didn't someone at Warrington Drop the cup when they won it in 2009?
I wonder who that could have been!
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"Don't forget he's won 2 challenge cups!'"
So did Ricky Bibey
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