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Quote MARTIN GLEESON is considering legal action against former club Hull after being hit with a three-year drugs ban.
The ex-Great Britain centre, 31, who had half his sentence suspended, tested positive for a banned stimulant.
But Gleeson has told friends he took an energy supplement which contained the drug methylhexaneamine in good faith'"
www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/2 ... -drug-ban/
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Quote MARTIN GLEESON is considering legal action against former club Hull after being hit with a three-year drugs ban.
The ex-Great Britain centre, 31, who had half his sentence suspended, tested positive for a banned stimulant.
But Gleeson has told friends he took an energy supplement which contained the drug methylhexaneamine in good faith'"
www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/2 ... -drug-ban/
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"It's nothing to do with the RFL, the Drugs Agency set the bans. If you are referring to K. Cunningham, that was eight years ago and the drug concerned was only banned in 2010.'"
Nothing to do with Cunningham - far from it.
I cannot understand how a former director of a Championship club can get banned from the sport for 'financial infringments' and in another breath a former CEO of another club only gets 2 years for covering up a doping offence. I fail to see where breaking financial rules is 4 times more punishable that is all.
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| How much talent has gone to waste here? What a class centre he was.
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| Quote ="Odem"How much talent has gone to waste here? What a class centre he was.'"
Unlucky not to win the Harry Sunderland Trophy less than 15 months ago.
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| I'll echo what many others have said. I hope he gets the help and support he needs, and maybe come back to play the game again.
IMO we still miss him at Wigan.
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| Losing him left a gap not easily filled, and he was in good form. Hope he can sort himself out.
Odd how Sean Longs name keeps cropping up in various reports. Would you want him around your club?
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| All good for future Hull n Leeds club relationships too. Never been the closest of pals!
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| What's the chances that Gleeson will sign for Salford in 2013?
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| Quote ="Conman"I'll echo what many others have said. I hope he gets the help and support he needs, and maybe come back to play the game again.
IMO we still miss him at Wigan.'"
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| Quote ="Gary High"Nothing to do with Cunningham - far from it.
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It was the Cunningham affair that kicked off the RFL standing on drugs use.
Cunningham went through the courts and the ruling was that there were mitigating circumstances in the case . The problem was that the RFL did not disclose the players name, this was jumped on by the sports minister via the anti drugs agency. This lack of transparency by the RFL kicked off the Zero Tolerance of drugs in sport we have today.
If we apply the same ruling we have today to the Cunningham situation 8 years ago, then Cunningham would be banned, a RFL supplied conditioner would be banned and a RFL Executive would be banned.
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| Quote ="NorthernStar"Read the article - did they pinch Gleesons nose and force him to swallow it? They are all involved, but dont make it your former player is a glory boy of any sort who was led astray when he came across to Hull.'"
If your conditioning coach comes to you and says take these then chances are you're gonna think theyre passed as legal arent you?! Remember that happening at Saints with Cunningham? Are you gonna say that was Cunningham's fault and he was allowed to play RL for years after unpunished or is it Saints fault for giving him something they shouldnt have given him?
Just think about it all for a second. Yeah maybe Gleeson took it realised he had done wrong and they were covering it up but at the end of the day youve got to accept that it could've been the other way round.
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| I feel 4 the guy because if u read this article [urlhttp://www.1-3-dimethylamylamine.com/methylhexaneamine[/url, it states that this ingredient is found in a common Pre-workout drink called Jack3d, just like you would drink a Protein shake after workout... And as it states later that its only recently been banned, so maybe he didnt even know that it was a banned substance.... Or maybe im just being alittle niave.....
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The whole web of lies that came out of the original story pointed to a wider issue at Hull as it was probable Long wasn't the only player Cooper had erroneously said it was ok to take. I suppose the delay given the lies helped any other player get it out of their system. Can you imagine the implications if nearly the whole team had tested positive?
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The whole web of lies that came out of the original story pointed to a wider issue at Hull as it was probable Long wasn't the only player Cooper had erroneously said it was ok to take. I suppose the delay given the lies helped any other player get it out of their system. Can you imagine the implications if nearly the whole team had tested positive?
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| Quote ="gengaa1"I feel 4 the guy because if u read this article [urlhttp://www.1-3-dimethylamylamine.com/methylhexaneamine[/url, it states that this ingredient is found in a common Pre-workout drink called Jack3d, just like you would drink a Protein shake after workout... And as it states later that its only recently been banned, so maybe he didnt even know that it was a banned substance.... Or maybe im just being alittle niave.....'"
Initially I was worried as I take Jack3d on a regular basis! I guess though that certain cough medicines are banned so it's not as bad as it looks............
I am torn really about MG. On one hand he should have checked everything himself, on the other it's hardly as if he has taken steroids............
One thing is for sure, we have missed him at centre. Carmont is a great creative centre, but since MG left, we have missed a "finisher" centre.
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| The article implements long to be quite a ''figure'' in all this,as his dad appears to be the source of the pills.Just glad,we are rid of them all.Our new owner has flushed out all the garbage within our club,and has stated anyone failing a test will be out straight away,regardless of who they are.We have a fans forum on wednesday,with Pearson,Peter Gentle,and a couple of players which should be interesting!! The only other aspect in this,is the truth behind Gleeson's departure from Wigan?
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| What a waste of talent. I'd have him down as probably the most gifted centre that we have produced the past 15 years. I can speak from experience from when he was at Wire and I'm sure many on here can do the same, that he was a pleasure to watch at the club. I bet every winger that has played outside of him has scored 20+ each season.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"The article implements long to be quite a ''figure'' in all this,as his dad appears to be the source of the pills.Just glad,we are rid of them all.Our new owner has flushed out all the garbage within our club,and has stated anyone failing a test will be out straight away,regardless of who they are.We have a fans forum on wednesday,with Pearson,Peter Gentle,and a couple of players which should be interesting!! The [uonly other aspect in this,is the truth behind Gleeson's departure from Wigan[/u?'"
It's not secret that he had a big bust-up with Michael Maguire.
What are you trying to imply?
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| Quote ="Galloping Ghost"What a waste of talent. I'd have him down as probably the most gifted centre that we have produced the past 15 years. I can speak from experience from when he was at Wire and I'm sure many on here can do the same, that he was a pleasure to watch at the club. I bet every winger that has played outside of him has scored 20+ each season.'"
Agreed, even though we're not renown for producing great centres in the SL era. His second try in the 2010 grand final was one of the best cup final tries ever. But talk about self-destructive - betting against himself as a player at Saints, causing the coaching staff to lose patience with him at Wigan in spite of his talent (I'm sure we would have kept him if we thought he could be managed)... Still, he has some of my sympathy because he obviously walked into a shabby set-up at Hull and has paid the price. And no amount of carping in the newspapers will get him his career back.
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| Hes been banned for using a product that I can guarantee at least half of professional rugby players will be using. OxyElitePro and the very similar Jack3D are commonly used supplements for aiding energy prior to training/games and also have fat stripping functions. The product was given to Gleeson by Sean Long who checked its legitimacy with the then trainer at Hull FC Ben Cooper. Martin Gleeson has been a victim here of false guidance and being the unlucky one to face punishment. Hopefully, it is sorted legally and his ban is reduced/revoked. The Wigan situation is completely separate incident to this one so those who are saying "its to do with the problems he has when he was at Wigan" are completely wide of the mark.
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| I am no fan of Gleeson but do have some sympathy for him with regards to this. I am sure that most players would think that supplements that are given the okay from the clubs conditioner are okay to take.
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| [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/16579884.stmThat's what you call throwing a grenade into the mix.[/url
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/16579884.stmThat's what you call throwing a grenade into the mix.[/url'"
Jesus, they'll be hitting each other over the heads with sandals by morning.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"The article implements long to be quite a ''figure'' in all this,as his dad appears to be the source of the pills.Just glad,we are rid of them all.Our new owner has flushed out all the garbage within our club,and has stated anyone failing a test will be out straight away,regardless of who they are.We have a fans forum on wednesday,with Pearson,Peter Gentle,and a couple of players which should be interesting!! The only other aspect in this,is the truth behind Gleeson's departure from Wigan?'"
i believe the part of the official statement which said...."couldt concentrate on his game because of "off field personal problems" "
unless you know something i dont,
be careful with your reply unless you want the thread
to follow other Gleeson threads..ie locked
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