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| Quote ="Woody_woody"Fair play to Hull. Quality signing for them. Longy and Gleeson can do whatever they like Monday to Thursday - as long as they perform on game day I'm sure the Hull fans will be pleased.
The whole saga does my head in though. How can you stick by someone for two years who tested positive for drugs (which i think was the right thing to do btw) and sack a player for "allegedly" turning up drunk to a training session, something which i still find hard to believe.
If he wasn't such a good player and I thought we wouldn't miss him i wouldn't care but for me we are a lot weaker without him.'"
The thing which really irks me about this situation is that the biggest loser in all of this is Wigan.
Hull FC have got a quality player that let's not forget we payed 100k for,
Gleeson has got another SL contract
Wigan are out of pocket & a quality player down.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"So do we replace him Gleeson this season by opening the cheque book or do we wait till the end of the year and sign an NRL centre?
We've got cap space to work with so let's be prepared to be linked with any NRL player off contract.'"
Which one of your many Antips you plan on getting rid of to fit him in?
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"The thing which really irks me about this situation is that the biggest loser in all of this is Wigan.
Hull FC have got a quality player that let's not forget we payed 100k for,
Gleeson has got another SL contract
Wigan are out of pocket & a quality player down.'"
Nail on head!!
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| Quote ="Woody_woody"Nail on head!!'"
Shocking really.
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| Quote ="Woody_woody"Fair play to Hull. Quality signing for them. Longy and Gleeson can do whatever they like Monday to Thursday - as long as they perform on game day I'm sure the Hull fans will be pleased.
The whole saga does my head in though. How can you stick by someone for two years who tested positive for drugs (which i think was the right thing to do btw) and sack a player for "allegedly" turning up drunk to a training session, something which i still find hard to believe.
If he wasn't such a good player and I thought we wouldn't miss him i wouldn't care but for me we are a lot weaker without him.'"
hardly comparable situations. Hock was cut and dried. With Gleeson, and i am a big fan of the player, we just don't know the back story, and he does have "form".
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"hardly comparable situations. Hock was cut and dried. With Gleeson, and i am a big fan of the player, we just don't know the back story, and he does have "form".'"
You're right "we" don't know hence why I put "alleged" in my post so only commenting on the speculation. If it's something worse (though I can't think what and I haven't heard any different) then fair enough. My opinion and always has been is that I'm only interested in what the players do on match day.
I remember from reading Jason Robinson's book (the interesting first half of it) that before he went t-total he regularly turned up to training hungover/still drunk. It didn't affect his performances.
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| longy travels to hull from wigan every day for training, i think
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| Quote ="Yedâ„¢"Which one of your many Antips you plan on getting rid of to fit him in?
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What the hell is an 'Antip'?
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"The thing which really irks me about this situation is that the biggest loser in all of this is Wigan.
Hull FC have got a quality player that let's not forget we payed 100k for,
Gleeson has got another SL contract
Wigan are out of pocket & a quality player down.'"
I'd like to think we are searching high and low for a replacement for Gleeson. If not, it makes the decision all that much more strange.
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| Quote ="AJ"I'd like to think we are searching high and low for a replacement for Gleeson. If not, it makes the decision all that much more strange.'"
I think, if rumours are to be believed, then the club simply had to act. Letting Gleeson's actions go without punishment wasn't an option.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"I think, if rumours are to be believed, then the club simply had to act. Letting Gleeson's actions go without punishment wasn't an option.'"
Possibly yeah, but realistically can they have been that bad, I mean if another SL side is going to sign him almost instantly.
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| Quote ="AJ"Possibly yeah, but realistically can they have been that bad, I mean if another SL side is going to sign him almost instantly.'"
I've thought that a few times myself but I guess what ever Gleeson did the Wigan club thought it crossed a line they weren't prepared to compromise on.
Maybe we set our standards high, maybe Hull don't or maybe Hull just see an excellent opp to snap up a very good player for very little.
I don't, however, think Wigan would have gone down this route if it wasn't a serious offence or distraction on Gleeson's part.
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| Quote ="P-J"What the hell is an 'Antip'?'"
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"The thing which really irks me about this situation is that the biggest loser in all of this is Wigan.
Hull FC have got a quality player that let's not forget we payed 100k for,
Gleeson has got another SL contract
Wigan are out of pocket & a quality player down.'"
never mind if true he has signed for hull fc, not like wigan have ever screwed anybody or team over in the past few years is it
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| Quote ="number 6"never mind if true he has signed for hull fc, not like wigan have ever screwed anybody or team over in the past few years is it
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example?
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| Quote ="number 6"never mind if true he has signed for hull fc, not like wigan have ever screwed anybody or team over in the past few years is it
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So why get rid of Tansey then?
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| Quote ="truewiganer"example?'"
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| Quote ="MattyB"So why get rid of Tansey then?'"
had three disciplinaries and then was sacked
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| Quote ="number 6"salary cap-castleford'"
they cant be wining about that still,
we have been done, get over it
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| Quote ="AJ"Possibly yeah, but realistically can they have been that bad, I mean if another SL side is going to sign him almost instantly.'"
If it is confirmed then the Hull board are making a monumental mistake in allowing Agar to sign him - their problem is not a lack of quality players but the lack of a quality coach.
They remind me of Warrington before they brought in Tony Smith who wasted about 3 minutes getting shut of Martin Gleeson - wonder what made him do that?
We may have suffered a little in the short term but im fairly confident that Wigan have made the right decision.
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| Quote ="number 6"never mind if true he has signed for hull fc, not like wigan have ever screwed anybody or team over in the past few years is it
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according to the link in the "Gary opens his mouth" thread.....hes on the verge of joining Barrow.
not a bad place to dissapear to.
close to the lake district.........you could go un noticed for years up there..
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"according to the link in the "Gary opens his mouth" thread.....hes on the verge of joining Barrow.
not a bad place to dissapear to.
close to the lake district.........you could go un noticed for years up there..
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his brother mark trains / plays with them if i'm correct?
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| Quote ="the mighty wigan town!!!"his brother mark trains / plays with them if i'm correct?'"
correct.......hes training up there with him
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| Richard Agar may sign Gleeson but their BOD will have to approve it and agree his salary etc. If the BOD said "Don't be so bloody stupid Richard" then he wouldn't be signed.
The problem at Hull firstly is the BOD. They are useless.
This proves it, to reunite Long and Gleeson at one club beggars belief!
It will be fun though and never, ever dull!
HKR fans won't be able to call them "The Dulls" whilst that pair are at the club!
Looking forward to it really, I suppose!
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