and what your point?

How far we have come. Thought that would have been obvious.

You think Cas and Warrington are better than us, why



You won't win even if you do turn up.

Don't bring us into it dude


Seriously we've had some shocking luck with cup draws
Last 4 years Saints away twice and Leeds away. In between we blew it at HKR.

I'm pretty disappointed.

Going to Wakefield away twice in the space of two weeks or so, how dull



Was hoping St.Helens would be away in France.

Wonder if it will be all ticket ?, expect a good following from us.

Doubt it. Bell Vue holds about 11k doesn't it?

Attendance will be lame I reckon, they're always lower in the cup than SL and they don't get that many in SL. Even less if it's on free tv.

Yeah 3000-3500 I reckon.

We are - the following week.



There are no easy games in the cup

this time last year it looked like Leeds might go trough the sl unbeaten , i know they won it but come September it looked like saints would win it . form is temporary

And a different more competitive play off system may prove more interesting this season. Only time will tell.

It's a really tricky tie for you that. Wakefield will really fancy their chances.

We did that a couple of years ago didn't we won the CC and lost the league game

This is a very tricky tie this wakey side beat us at the jjb with half a team remember so at full strengh will be even harder and the john kear factor does anybody know what our record is against this man in league and cup.

Why a

, he'll prove you wrong again this year one of our best forwards.

So

What other sport can you think of that holds the draw for its flagship knock out comp in a air base with no live tv or radio it drives me and thousands of people mad, what about the joe average arm chair fan from swindon will he know when the cup draw was made i was at barrow on sunday so dont know if they mentioned it on the BBC during the games.

The draw should be made live on TV with balls with numbers on not team names. The draw now days is open to abuse its untrue at least when it was drawn on tv with numbered balls they could only have hot and cold balls now the bowl they have them is is glass at the bottom.

I do think Cas are better than Wakefield. Warrington are not but they raise their game against Wigan even more than Wakey do so I'd rather play you.

We like playing you lot cos you are so poor, overspending under achievers.

Can t wait

And the last time you won something was ?.............................................

Warrington have more recent honors than Wakefield.



Bless.

We are always winning. you forgotten so soon, and with less than half of our first team.

I have no problem with the Wakefield game at all tbh. They're a good side but there were better in the draw and if we can't win a game against them then we don't really deserve a crack at winning the trophy.

I don't say that in an arrogant way because Wakey are a good side and will probably be favourites.

Trophies, when did you last win a trophy ?????????