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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Not upset at all, just shocked..... If you want to here something really funny, someone actually managed to get the words "Leeds" and "style" in thee same sentence... That was a killer...
Happy New Year.'"
I'm amazed you managed to stop your sides from splitting...
...and a happy new year to you too.
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"I'm amazed you managed to stop your sides from splitting...
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| Quote ="Dougy"I'd rather have Wire's season from last year than Leeds' season from last year. Leeds where the best team for about 4 weeks. Wire where the best team for 27 weeks. When i pay £200 plus for my season ticket its because i want to see them finish top of the league, not win a 4 weeks play off comp that i don't give a to$$ about.
Think about how awful it was under Noble, 5th/6th every year then a post season surge in the playoffs-, big deal, we were still a distinctly average SL side regardless of the playoffs.
The only problem is people will look at the list of all time Champions and see '2011 - Leeds' and will then think -'oh Leeds must have been a bloody good side in 2011' when the reality is they are statistically the poorest champions of all time.'"
I think you are quite wrong about the 2011 Leeds Rhinos. 2011 saw the Leeds club completely revamped in terms of coaching and playing structure. The plays and systems that were in place for over a decade, the ones that the numourous home grown talent had leant since their skolarships programmes began had been completely wiped clean by MacDermott in an attempt to freshen things up. During the season I saw some very good signs of defence and attack but neither were put together on a regular basis. Signs were evident that the players were struggling and MacDermott was also learning about his side. They stook at it when pressure got very high. It took almost a full season for the players to put things together and for MacDermott to find a way to get the best out of his squad. It was frustrating to watch but fascinating when glimpses were shown. In the end it was put together and nobody can deny that Leeds played some very special rugby in the playoffs.
I've paid for my season ticket and seen Leeds do things the 'Warrington way' and win the competition by been the best side all season, but 2011 will definitely be the one to stick in the memory above the rest!
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| Quote ="Dougy"I'd rather have Wire's season from last year than Leeds' season from last year. Leeds where the best team for about 4 weeks. Wire where the best team for 27 weeks. When i pay £200 plus for my season ticket its because i want to see them finish top of the league, not win a 4 weeks play off comp that i don't give a to$$ about.
Think about how awful it was under Noble, 5th/6th every year then a post season surge in the playoffs-, big deal, we were still a distinctly average SL side regardless of the playoffs.
The only problem is people will look at the list of all time Champions and see '2011 - Leeds' and will then think -'oh Leeds must have been a bloody good side in 2011' when the reality is they are statistically the poorest champions of all time.'"
I'd rather pay £200 to see the champions rather than watch a team that choked when it really mattered. It's ok being a flat track bully against the also rans but I'd rather watch a team that stood up when it really counted. But life would be boring if we were all the same.
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"Arrogant, dull and patronising to boot...you epitomise and justify every criticism I've seen of Wigan fans in general and posters on here in particular.'"
You need to stop reading all the cry-baby threads on Southstander about this board then. The same people start a new one every few weeks when they've lost their latest dummy.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"You need to stop reading all the cry-baby threads on Southstander about this board then. The same people start a new one every few weeks when they've lost their latest dummy.
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You need to stop advising me on what I should or shouldn't read.
The threads you refer to are more gloating than crying,(and often with justification). I find them quite entertaining.
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"You need to stop advising me on what I should or shouldn't read.
The threads you refer to are more gloating than crying,(and often with justification). I find them quite entertaining.'"
If starting a new thread every few weeks whining about being banned on here is now considered gloating, Substandard has gone downhill even more than I thought.
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Substandard? Oh what delicious irony!
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"Substandard? Oh what delicious irony!'"
Of course the cry-baby who had to start another thread about us, couldn't see this thread is nearly a year old and was restarted by a Leeds fan.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Of course the cry-baby who had to start another thread about us, couldn't see this thread is nearly a year old and was restarted by a Leeds fan.
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Pity that said Leeds fan could not have dug up some threads containing the bleating of the leeds fans from early in the season. Maybe they have, but i seldom go to other boards so would not know.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"There's only one thing holding Leeds back and it's not the team, their attitiude or tactics.
It's Hetherington!
He's hopeless, has sat and watched Leeds "golden generation" play themselves out for the last ten years. Now he's found they have nothing behind them and Leeds are looking around to see where their next generation are coming from.
As long as Hetherington is at Leeds they will win very little if anything.'"
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"You need to stop reading all the cry-baby threads on Southstander about this board then. The same people start a new one every few weeks when they've lost their latest dummy.
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Perhaps these threads have to be started on our board simply because whenever anything negative is aired towards Wigan on your board it seems to implement an almost instant ban? Voicing your opinion on here can be almost impossible due to mods being hyper sensitive.
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"Perhaps these threads have to be started on our board simply because whenever anything negative is aired towards Wigan on your board it seems to implement an almost instant ban? Voicing your opinion on here can be almost impossible due to mods being hyper sensitive.'"
...unless you're the exception that proves the rule.
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"Perhaps these threads have to be started on our board simply because whenever anything negative is aired towards Wigan on your board it seems to implement an almost instant ban? Voicing your opinion on here can be almost impossible due to mods being hyper sensitive.'"
As far as I'm aware nobody has ever been banned on here for anything negative aired towards Wigan. If that actually happened, I'd be banning myself first. Constant trolling, ignoring warnings, breaking the AUP is why people get banned. However don't let the facts get in the way of the babies crying on the Leeds board who did all these things then play the victim because they were a muppet.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"As far as I'm aware nobody has ever been banned on here for anything negative aired towards Wigan. If that actually happened, I'd be banning myself first. Constant trolling, ignoring warnings, breaking the AUP is why people get banned. However don't let the facts get in the way of the babies crying on the Leeds board who did all these things then play the victim because they were a muppet.'"
I'm pretty sure some people could back me up on this, and not just Leeds fans either. Some comments are made to be taken tongue in cheek, yet it's seen as a personal attack on your club most of the time. Believe me, I'm not the only person on these boards who hold this opinion, and if your heads weren't so far up your own arsés you'd realise this aswell.
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"I'm pretty sure some people could back me up on this, and not just Leeds fans either. Some comments are made to be taken tongue in cheek, yet it's seen as a personal attack on your club most of the time. Believe me, I'm not the only person on these boards who hold this opinion, and if your heads weren't so far up your own arsés you'd realise this aswell.'"
If what you say was true then people would have been banned for what's been said in this thread since it was reopened. They haven't, which pretty clearly shows what you and others think, to be complete rubbish. Given what you say it makes me wonder why people are still so desperate to post on here..................
Anyway this thread is not about what you or anyone else thinks about how this board is moderated. If you have a problem with it contact the site admin.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"If what you say was true then people would have been banned for what's been said in this thread since it was reopened. They haven't, which pretty clearly shows what you and others think, to be complete rubbish. Given what you say it makes me wonder why people are still so desperate to post on here..................
Anyway this thread is not about what you or anyone else thinks about how this board is moderated. If you have a problem with it contact the site admin.'"
I'd have to agree with you again, Andy. (This is becoming a habit! ).
The standard of moderation on this board is second to none. There are some boards whose standards fall well short of those set by the moderators on here. If someone has an issue with the moderation process there are other places to start before coming to this board to complain.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"
Anyway this thread is not about what you or anyone else thinks about how this board is moderated. If you have a problem with it contact the site admin.'"
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The standard of moderation on this board is second to none. There are some boards whose standards fall well short of those set by the moderators on here. If someone has an issue with the moderation process there are other places to start before coming to this board to complain.'"
Well done Deano! Ten out of ten for self-contradiction.... and so high is the standard of moderation on this board that this is the sixth time I've attempted to tell you so!
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"Well done Deano! Ten out of ten for self-contradiction.... and so high is the standard of moderation on this board that this is the sixth time I've attempted to tell you so!'"
Oh dear. Highlighting one sentence of Andy's post, in an attempt to show that I am contradicting myself by agreeing with him and then going on to develop the argument. Very weak attempt, even by the standards of Leeds fans posting on this thread.
What's so funny about this thread is that no-one was more pessimistic about Leeds' chances than Leeds fans when this thread was originally running.
It's quite bizarre that Leeds fans should want to highight their utter failure to get behind what is clearly a good coaching and playing set-up. It's drawing attention to the lack of RL knowledge and frankly a lack of character in many Leeds RL fans. Many people outside your club would conclude from the orginal debacle and this embarrassing regurgitation of the bitter feelings of those dark days for your club that your players and coaching staff deserve much better than the shocking "support" of Whinos fans.
But feel free to carry on, this is great stuff!
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| Quote ="Deano G"Oh dear. Highlighting one sentence of Andy's post, in an attempt to show that I am contradicting myself by agreeing with him and then going on to develop the argument. Very weak attempt, even by the standards of Leeds fans posting on this thread.
What's so funny about this thread is that no-one was more pessimistic about Leeds' chances than Leeds fans when this thread was originally running.
It's quite bizarre that Leeds fans should want to highight their utter failure to get behind what is clearly a good coaching and playing set-up. It's drawing attention to the lack of RL knowledge and frankly a lack of character in many Leeds RL fans. Many people outside your club would conclude from the orginal debacle and this embarrassing regurgitation of the bitter feelings of those dark days for your club that your players and coaching staff deserve much better than the shocking "support" of Whinos fans.
But feel free to carry on, this is great stuff!
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So you think that, at the time, Brian Mc and Piggy Lowes were above criticism?
Let me remind you that, at the time, we were playing poorly, loosing games we really should have won, hadn't beaten any of the top 4 teams, home or away and were looking like we might drop out of the top 8 with fundamentally the same team that were champions not more than 7 months previously.
At the time, we had gone from GF semifinalists and CC finalists to a mid-table, mediocre team with the only real change being the coaching staff.
It is very easy to condemn when your looking down from your ivory tower, hand-in-hand with hindsight.
With hindsight it may not have been so prudent to proclaim yourself champions before the first ball was kicked in the Grand Final.
With hindsight it may have been better to run your post through some spell-checking software before hitting the 'Submit' button.
With hindsight we can all criticise.
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| Quote ="Deano G"Oh dear. Highlighting one sentence of Andy's post, in an attempt to show that I am contradicting myself by agreeing with him and then going on to develop the argument. Very weak attempt, even by the standards of Leeds fans posting on this thread.
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You're very funny That one sentence was one of only two key points made in Andy's post. Clearly the logic is a little too advanced for you. And you didn't really develop an argument did you. You merely fawned at the feet of your master before paraphrasing his point.
In any case this is my last post on here. It took me six goes to post my earlier reply before your mods stopped deleting it and it's getting just a touch tedious having to copy, paste and modify until I have reached your 'oh so lofty' standards.
I leave you to scowl down imperiously on the rest of us, in the secure knowledge that you have and will always hold the moral high ground...
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"You're very funny
That one sentence was one of only two key points made in Andy's post. Clearly the logic is a little too advanced for you. And you didn't really develop an argument did you. You merely fawned at the feet of your master before paraphrasing his point.
In any case this is my last post on here. [uIt took me six goes to post my earlier reply before your mods stopped deleting it and it's getting just a touch tedious having to copy, paste and modify until I have reached your 'oh so lofty' standards.[/u
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course it did
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Pop over to the Leeds board and you'll find this was confirmed by our Mod.
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