Jamie foster is one of the worse players ive seen in a saints shirt all he can do is kick goals looks shockin in defence and lets be honest saints fans hes no jonny lomax or ashurst and thats from a wigan fan hes a there great talents for the future.

Id have to agree about the likes of Brough and Cooke.

But to the poster who said James Graham, well i wish our props were as bad as this lad - he is awesome.

And score tries in wins at Warrington and Wigan of course.

Check out his hands in the build up to KC's winning try at the weekend, he's a classy player and a good finisher.

Don't agree with that I'm afraid.

From what I've seen of him this year, I've been quite impressed.

For me, Rob Purdham always seemed to get over praised. We had far better international forwards than him IMO. Also, I seem to recall Phil Clarke saying Rickie Sheriffe was international class too....

However, and to broaden the debate a bit for us older fan, I never will understand until my last day how Daryl Powell got so many GB caps.

Also, the best bit of "overrating" had to be Hemmings re Wellens. He will NEVER live that down.

Ryan Bailey, Enough said !

Nobody particularly rates him except Leeds fans, so not sure that counts.

I think Jamie Fosters defence has improved a hell of a lot recently seems to be playing well.
Im not a big fan of riley at warrington although that might be just me
Brett hodsgon hasnt impressed this season either.

I don't , But those 2 cocks on Sky rave about him and his coach has spoken highly of him in the recent past

Nickname TMFMISL (The Most Feared Man in Super League) MY ASS !!

Cant stand the bloke personally, but his wind up merchant antics have won a few games for leeds over the last few years.

Dont rate him as a Prop, but he is effective at what he does

Good call that, very very overrated.

I thought that name was some kind of sarcastic joke.

i agree, seems to to be very composed and have a very old head on his young shoulders. very calm player that will get even better with experience. hes goona be one to watch over he coming years. a very good young prospect

Surprised how many have gone for McGuire and Sinfield.

For McGuire, just read the preview on this site for how important to Leeds he has been this season.

Sinfield is having a poor season by his standards, but he has consistently led from the front in recent GF wins over Saints. He's not really a truly world class player, but by SL standards would walk into most teams (perhaps not always at 13 though).

As for Bailey, who really rates him? He does a good job of getting under the skins of opposition players and fans, that's for sure. Otherwise he's a steady SL prop with a fairly good work-rate who occasionally comes up with something special.

He's a bit light, which may hold him back as he's a centre by trade. He's shown glimpses in attack in his appearences on the wing, but what has impressed me is his ball skills under pressure.
(eg when he took that kick in the dying seconds against wigan.)

saints fans are hopeful, but he's got a way to go until we'd rate him as a long term prospect.

I agree with exeter rhino about sinfield. Say what you will, he's been a major factor in Leeds beating saints in the GF for the last 3 years. He might not possess the size, pace or skills to excel at international level, but every club could do with a leader with his game smarts.

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Go onto his Wiki Page , i nearly fell off my chair laughing




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Phil Bailey, enough said !

I agree, he cant sing and that song he did with Phill collins was utter biz !

I rate him think he will be a star in 2-3 years

You have got to be rated first

from our own club - tim smith, apart from the millenium game, he was the laziest player and worst tackler i have seen.

VERY TRUE

To be overrated then you reputation must be greater than your achievements, correct?

If thats the case look at what the likes of Sinfield has won and think of his reputation.... "not world class". How can that be overrated???? The guy has won everything including the lance todd and harry sunderland and except the CC.

Now consider Sam Tomkins reputation, is he not regarded as one of the best in SL...but what has he achieved????

In Sam's 1st full season he has won the league and in half a season last year won Young Player of the Year award, yes your right....Overrated!