I think that Ainscough's try scoring record this year has been greatly helped by playing on the left wing. Richards is now up to 12 Sl tries.

I think a lot of people of very unfair on Roberts, I think he has improved as the season has gone on. Riddell still flatters to deceive and I actually thought Fielden had a good game today.

Richards on the left wing:

Played 9
Tries 11

And its a tough thing, but one I fully agree with.

he s SH@T

Insightful. Care to add any detail to that

But lets not let that FACT get in the way

What are you mad about, specifically with his showing tonight?

Being caught by the fastest player in the comp? Ill tell you now, Fox would catch Ainscough.

Fox would catch pretty much anyone exept maybe Donald.

Roberts made the mistake of going cross field, which ment he had extra ground to cover, and extra ground for Fox to track him down. Had he gone right down the touchline he may have had the legs and you'd all be saying how quick he was.

If rumours are to be believed Carmonts been "promised" a final 1 year lucrative contract. To me he was a steady player when he came to us who seems to be going backwards this year. We need to let him go IMO and start giving youngsters a chance.

A point i made to my dad about 17 times to try and calm him down from having a heart attack.

Fox is the quickest player in superleague imo and getting chased down by him after making 50-60 yards is no disgrace.

As for Roberts overall preformence it was a complete mixture and thats what it seems to be most weeks. He does some good things and some shocking things but i'm confident he's not a complete right off just yet. He like anybody else could do with playing in a side that has some confidence and some passion because i think you need that to help you settle in alot of the time.

@ this thread!

I was really pleased with Roberts performance yesterday, especially after his shaky start in the first 10 minutes. I am surprised that after yesterday there is a thread like this, but then again he is Australian and this is Wigan fans were talking about.

This comment is mental

Carmont was excellent yesterday imo.

Probably his best game this year and in that form and if he can stay clear of the injuries i'd keep him for at least another year.

He really stepped up yesterday and showed some leadership and aggression.

Exactly, to be fair to Carmont he has been carrying a injury for most of the season but he has still been as good as last season IMO. If you just look at how many tries have been scored down the left hand side this season, I think Pat has 9 and Ainscough has 13, this shows that some credit has to be given to Carmont

This is added to the fact Carmont only started playing 1st grade rugby in Aus at 26 I think?

Carmont is a key and experienced player in our team and I would love for him to be here next year. Then when it is time for him to go hopefully Pryce/Thornley will be ready to step up in his place.

Roberts is an average winger. If he played for another SL team no one on here would say anything about him.

When we signed him we supposedly signed a speedster, he has no speed for a winger.
Don't forget not only fox was catching him, Briscoe was also. I'd be very suprised if he was even the fastest at Wigan.

He did ok yesterday, but I sometimes worry about his positional play in attrack he seems to be too flat to the centre instead of dropping back - and has a tendency to drift inside in defense.

When did Briscoe catch him?

Wasn't worth bring over from Aus, we have players of his standard over here who would have played for a lot less.

Catching. Please read the post properly.

I think Roberts "needs to make improvements to some aspects of his game."

Erm...

Oh so he didn't? So its irrelevant.

I think Roberts over length of the field is faster than Ainscough, but fastest player at the club for me is Richards. His last try Yesterday he was barely breaking a sweat

Hardly irrelevant, regardless of Fox being there he wouldn't have scored as Briscoe was catching him.

This once again emphases his lack of speed. Hardly the speedster we thought we were getting.

I would agree with that but Fox has to be the fastest in SL. It would of been interesting to see what Ainscough would of done if he played yesterday but I guess we will never know.

The good thing from yesterday is that there was support from Richards, regardless of who was the winger, he was always going to be chased down by Fox and it was good play from Richards to follow it up and support him.

He would have got caught about 20 yards before Roberts

I don't think Fox is the fastest in SL, plus with a head start you would expect a flyer to have enough speed to score. I'm disappointed in Roberts, after Calderwood I was excited to think we had a winger with so much pace that once he got in the clear it would be a forgone conclusion, unfortunately that isn't the case with Roberts.

I'm not comparing Roberts with Ainscough, a) because they are two very different wingers. It would be like comparing Robinson to Offiah, both were outstanding but different wingers.
b) We didn't bring Ainscough from the other side of the world, we didn't put him on a 4 yr decent contract.
c) Roberts has nearly 10 years on Ainscough.