Does anyone have the relative figures from China?

To put it simply if you are struggling to understand what I am saying is this;

I don’t think there is a one size fits all approach to getting the vaccine, having the vaccine etc and should come down to individual choice. That is why when the discussion of data and stats come up, those stats can be manipulated whichever way you want depending on which side of the fence you sit on.

So, when people whether on here or not “call” for people to get vaccinated I don’t agree with that as it may not be right for that person.

There is also now calls for children aged 5-11 (who are classed as healthy) to be vaccinated against Covid. Not for health reasons as “Five to 11s are probably the group least affected by Covid disease,”

The reason being, wait for it school disruption and mental health.

this guy as got it right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnSfkiO ... ag&index=2

this guy as got it right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnSfkiO ... ag&index=2

what about this then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkNaGdM ... ag&index=3

what about this then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkNaGdM ... ag&index=3

Quote ="knockonknockon"what about this then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkNaGdM ... ag&index=3'" Fair play, least he has some backbone unlike this sellout doctor who’s made over £300k https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.wale ... 485574.amp

Quote ="knockonknockon"what about this then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkNaGdM ... ag&index=3'" Fair play, least he has some backbone unlike this sellout doctor who’s made over £300k https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.wale ... 485574.amp

Quote ="knockonknockon"what about this then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkNaGdM ... ag&index=3'" what an idiot, hes obviously not in critical care at the moment to make such an idiotic sweeping statement, if he was he wouldnt have 5 mins to come down and speak to the MP

Quote ="knockonknockon"what about this then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkNaGdM ... ag&index=3'" what an idiot, hes obviously not in critical care at the moment to make such an idiotic sweeping statement, if he was he wouldnt have 5 mins to come down and speak to the MP

Not as long as this thread

As predicted

Whatabout
Whatabout
Whatabout
But Ron desantis - Seriously

Pretty sure I answered you without saying what about

Knockonknockon didn't
And you posted a link about a doctor who did nothing more than vaccinate people who wanted to be as quick as he could.
But you try and infer he's doing ri for money, go figure

Don't make out I am trying struggling to understand anything
I understand what we're trying to say perfectly

Stats relating to the amount and the likelihood of someone ending up in icu or dead if they are vaccinated or unvaccinated are fact. The only people trying to twist them as your implying are the ones who don't like them.

I was replying to this comment;

All the while you camt get a coherent explanation of what exactly they are trying to say without the usual Big Pharma/MSM rubbish

I answered specifically about what I believe in not using big pharma MSM rubbish as you put it.

you work for the msm and I claim my fiver

whatabout whatabout whatabout that then

Whilst quoting my whatabout, Whatabout, whatabout reply when I didn't specifically reply to you.

I'm not going to get into distraction replies anymore
Last night WLA showed EXACTLY what a lot/most of us have been trying to say ( and btw I must have had a dozen messages/texts telling me not to bother anymore because these 2 or 3 are just not interested in listening, so do t make out its only a few).

It's not complicated
No one has said that it should be mandated to be vaccined (but dont get precious if your not and you get called selfish or something else, because those who Rnet don't seem backward at having a go at us Sheep).

Weve been saying that the vaccines work, and that they vastly reduce the risk of serious illness or death.
Do you agree or disagree with the above?

OK then, you win

well thank you / i would just like to say whilst the government is pushing and pushing for as many vaccinations as possible due to a bad cold in many cases there is plenty of £££££££££s to be made

You are an undertaker and I claim my £5
Only an undertaker or someone who would benefit for more deaths would want people not to have the vaccine (medical reasons to one side).

i am pro vax but pro choice thats been my point and my belief from the beginning

undertaker

More facts - child admissions to hospital are at their highest level since the pandemic began. Maybe Omicron isn't a mild illness for them compared to other variants.

Think I'll just leave this to you
Seems crystal clear I think to most people BUT you know what's coming

Call me cynical but it always seems coincidental that a certain groul who haven't been vaccinated suddenly are affected by it to scare them into getting it?

I predicted over 6 months ago that once the majority of people had had the jab and push back about jabbing kids that there'd be a new variant that specifically affected kids in order to scare parents into getting their kids jabbed. All this does is make me more sceptical because I smell a rat.

You think it's a coincidence that an unvaccinated group might be more affected by a virus?

Exactly!

Bit like the low uptake on booster initially then suddenly we have a variant that evades the vaccine but if you have your 3rd dose you’ll be ok

What are you trying to prove here or suggesting. All children from birth should be vaccinated?

I have 2 questions.

1. Is this hospital admission due to omicron or with it?
2. How was it determined that it was omicron specifically?

Kids weren't affected by any previous strains, Omicron is milder, so why.would someone want to get their kids jabbed unless they were scared into doing so?

A lot of my mates kids have had it, prob about 10 to 12 kids and all of them have had no symptoms or just a sniffle. So why subject them to gene therapy? Which in 2002 led to the children who recieved gene therapy to develop leukemia 2 years later?

I followed covid closely up until recently when I left the NHS, those hospital numbers aren't and have never been what people think. Hospital aquired infection was roughly 30% at least sometimes went up to 50%, so someone in hospital for a longer period of time would end up catching it but not in hospital due to it as some people think when they see the figures. With omIcron spreading easier due to the viral load being higher and in the bronchial passage its easier and faster spread so guess what? Those hospital numbers are higher.

Trust your own eyes and ears, what have the kids been like who you know with covid? Dont listen to the figures or the politicians.