Although Mathers is considered by many to be best FB ever to play for the Wire in Wigan he was generally considered to be pretty shoite so no, he wouldn't be considered to be one of our better FBs.

No why?

Has Sam been ripping up trees down in the south of France? If he has i must have missed it and i have seen every Catalans game this season for 80 mins. An ageing player with hardly any pace on top dollar wages or a much younger Man Of Steel winner defensively sound, positionally sound and much better attacker (with the right team around him)

I know where my money is. Each to their own though. Its your view and you are entitled to it.

He tracked back to make the tackle though, he should have been better positioned to either front up or side on. I think Zac is still trying to find his positional play and it will come, but I think too often he leaves himself to much to do when sliding across the back of the defensive line

A few people mention that tackle but apart from that he has definitely "gone missing" a few times when I'd expect better from a quality FB.
I think we would see a better Hardaker if and when we can sort out the half backs.
For me the jury is still out on Hardaker but unless his lifestyle has blunted his prowess I'm a decent player still resides there.

Lenegan confirms no signed contract https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby- ... -1-9667903

Lenegan confirms no signed contract https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby- ... -1-9667903

Quote ="EHW"Lenegan confirms no signed contract https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby- ... -1-9667903'" Why are we letting him mess us about like this? He's not coached league and appears indifferent about taking the job. We should explore our options whilst he explores his!

Quote ="EHW"Lenegan confirms no signed contract https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby- ... -1-9667903'" Why are we letting him mess us about like this? He's not coached league and appears indifferent about taking the job. We should explore our options whilst he explores his!

Enough is enough time to end this messy farce and bring it to an end as will surely happen early next week as it is

I really don’t know what to say on the situation. The emotional side of me reading it for the first time says Lenagan really should publicly put the club up for sale. I can’t be bothered with this nonsense anymore, treating the fans like they’re fools. The Bateman situation, Wane walking out clearly due to something behind the scenes he’s unhappy with, the salary cap breach, more players being sold off and now this embarrassment and I just hoped he’d come out fighting but instead he’s saying we’ll wait and back any decision Edwards decides to make! Back any decision?! Is he taking the mick. Get this farcical situation knocked on the head and get looking for a coach who wants to be here. He’s basically buying him and Edwards time to figure out how to break the news that he’s going elsewhere.

Maybe I’ll calm down and think differently once the dust settles but this is such a frustrating situation on top of many others recently. He has been fabulous for Wigan has Ian Lenagan but it doesn’t give him free reign to act like one of our many dodgy politicians.

Sickening for a fan and embarassing for the club

Bigredwarrior: i appreciate your comments on this subject so far but i dont see how you can defend this now.....

All I’m prepared to say is that I stand by my comments. Mr Lenagan has shown an extreme level of diplomacy in his statement and has not yet disclosed any key facts, particularly about the contract.
No point me going on, it only gets people’s backs up.

That’s the whole point. There isn’t a contract despite your club announcing that he had “signed” a 3 year contract.

I actually feel sorry for Wigan fans as I would hate to support a club that lies to its fans in such a way

I appreciate that. I am only going off the press release which obviously doesnt disclose all the facts

To me, reading that statement by the club, we are being walked all over but like i said, i dont have the same info you do

I hope im wrong

While having Edwards at the club could be a great thing, he should only be here if he thinks it's the right thing. Let him think it through, if it's Union money V's old team pride (it's not going to be the cash). He has to decide what's right for him.

There's nothing Lenagan can really do here.

So the club lied to/misled the fans and Lenegan doesn’t have the guts to say sorry or apologise. I’ve lost all respect for him (and I had lots). That’s before we even get to the incompetence and what I think of Edwards. Brexit is going better than this.

The one thing im bothered about at the moment, above all others, is that the EuroTrash brexit special on the 29th might be cancelled!!!

Did they lie or was they guilty of trusting a Wigan legend who looked as on board with this as they did?
For me we have been played. It stinks of the ego that made Edwards a great player but at an awkward person. I can imagine this playing out because of that same ego when he wasn't offered the no1 spot with Wales when Garland said he was leaving. Very sad lets not forget Edwards sat in front of the press with our crest on his chest, telling the world how he would not leave Wales early because if his integrity...
"A man of his word!"
Hindsight ...naive? ..stupid even? But who would have imagined Edwards treating the club,fans and town with such disrespect.

The club said he signed a three year contract. He didn't. They lied.

Had he signed we wouldn't be in this mess.

Give him till midnight Sunday then pull the plug if we have to give him time . Personally I would pull it now as he has had nine months to weigh up his options (6 nations lasts 2 months) . His heart does not seem to be here so if we are not first choice then goodnight.

Regards EW

Apologies for quoting myself. My thoughts are still the same and have been confirmed now, IL has shown faith in Edwards apparent commitment to coaching Wigan. I guess he thought that after all this time away, to make the decision to come back, he would have been 100% committed and felt comfortable with a handshake.

Clearly IL has been left to look like a prize clown. While it's easy to state the obvious about him not actually signing, it's Edwards that has created all this, because his stock has risen. Even had he signed, there would have been union people with money sniffing around.

I'm not going to spit my dummy and say I don't want him to come, I do. What I want more though is a quick resolution, so whoever the coach is can start to plan for next year.

Spot on ive always wanted to see Edwards coach Wigan maybe he will maybe he never will just needs sorting and quick

I kind of agree with both sides here. The club lied to the fans, they said he signed a 3 year deal when he hadn’t. Perhaps it would have been more sensible to say he has agreed to sign a 3 year deal once Wales’ involvement in the RUWC has finished.

That said, IL & KR have taken a club legend and someone they know personally at his word. A person who is clearly now having second thoughts. He’d be having the same thoughts if he had signed a contract.

I don’t see the point in having a coach who’s not sure he wants to be here, it’s time to move on. Either give Lam (if he wants it) & the team some stability and give him a 2 year extension and the chance to develop a squad to suit his style of play or start the search for a replacement ASAP.

I thought today’s statement was professional and dignified, they must be fuming behind the scenes. Although disappointed with them I still believe IL & KR are the right people to take the club forward.

I'm sorry but not trolling here but you are comparing rugby union standards to the NRL and not what super league has become. I know rubbish players getting paid or free beers at terrible levels in union. Yet league teams especially at amateur level take a hell of a lot from their players wages, which are more often than not great. Just think the analogy is wrong

I agree with everything up until the last paragraph. Edwards has made IL, KR and more importantly Wigan and RL look like a total amateur bunch of nobs, Rugby Union must be wetting themselves laughing at us.
For me he obviously doesn,t have coming home top of his list of priorities,so as such IL should stop being dictated to by the egotistical little sh**house, withdraw the offer and lets go our seperate ways. Who is to say that a few months into his first season somebody from Union might not knock on his door and waft a wad under his mercenary nose and off he goes leaving us in the cack again. I would no longer trust the guy as far as I could throw him.

100%

Why drag this out? How could he possibly become our coach now even if he decided we’re worthy? I do not want him anywhere near the club and how it still seems to be very much ball in his court is just beyond me.

Effort needs to be going in to finding a new coach and the half a new team he’s going to need. Moves for good players (not just scraps that are left) will be getting made now and we need stability and for potential new recruits to know who the coach is going to be.

Lenegan doesn't need to apologise to anyone because he owns Wigan. Fans are only consumers...but unfortunately you can't go elsewhere. His way...like it or lump it.