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| Quote ="jonh"Without wanting to sound like a cynic, i take the published Stats with a pinch of salt.'"
I just genuinely think he's one of those players that polarises opinions because of people's expectation (i'm not even trying to suggest for a minute that they shouldn't have those expectations).
The level of prop that he compares unfavourably to is Jamie Peacock - quite right to make a comparison given their histories and probably contract sizes, and he should deliver more than he does (or be on a smaller salary). But he compares very favourably to every other prop at our club, and tbh the majority of props in Super League.
That's the only point I was trying to make, for his money he should be up there with JP (and lets be honest it's not like he's not got the ability to be up there). There are very very few props around though that offer more apart from a financial saving (which again maybe a great thing).
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"I just genuinely think he's one of those players that polarises opinions because of people's expectation (i'm not even trying to suggest for a minute that they shouldn't have those expectations).
The level of prop that he compares unfavourably to is Jamie Peacock - quite right to make a comparison given their histories and probably contract sizes, and he should deliver more than he does (or be on a smaller salary). But he compares very favourably to every other prop at our club, and tbh the majority of props in Super League.
That's the only point I was trying to make, for his money he should be up there with JP (and lets be honest it's not like he's not got the ability to be up there). There are very very few props around though that offer more apart from a financial saving (which again maybe a great thing).'"
I am not bagging Fielden regards this i have seen examples throughout the year where the official stats do not add up.
Fielden is a solid supporting Prop, his defence is reliable, he offers neat to nothing going forward in fact harms the team's go forward.
Regardless of the stats right or wrong, he fails to dominate any collision both attacking and defence so while he does complete the tackle and gets a tick next to his name much of the time he loses the collision and generates trouble for the team on a wider level.
He is on World Class money and producing supporting Prop form, in my opinion he is producing second supporting Prop form, 1 up from the junior spot in a balanced 4, and in the day of the cap that is not acceptable.
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"Interestingly:
He makes as many metres as Coley, busts a lot more tackles, puts in more defensively, but makes less offloads.
Compared to Prescott, he makes a lot more metres, busts a lot more tackles, puts in more than 1.6 times the tackles, and offloads just a little less
Compared to Feka, he makes similar metres, busts less tackles (though still a lot more than coley or prescott), makes a lot less offloads, and puts in about 1.7 times the number of tackles
It's funny how people's perception is though isn't it?
I think the biggest areas of improvement for Stu are in trying to offload a bit more, and cutting down on the penalties due to sloppy play etc. I think he gets such a hard time on his go forward because it's felt it's a lot worse than he should be deliver (but is still very favourable with our other props)'"
And again we sing from the same hymn sheet.
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| Quote ="jjb10"We also have Tuson, already had first team experience although it might be brief. Maybe if MM comes in he might want to put Coley or Presscott in the 2nd row, and bring in a another prop. Or just replace Bailey with another 2nd rower??'"
Ryan Bailey?
It all makes sense now.
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[urlhttp://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/roosters-give-willie-his-marching-orders/story-e6frexnr-1225790888872[/url'"
Quote ="Rogues Gallery"We won't.'"
told you
www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 66,00.html
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[urlhttp://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/roosters-give-willie-his-marching-orders/story-e6frexnr-1225790888872[/url'"
Quote ="Rogues Gallery"We won't.'"
told you
www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 66,00.html
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Do you bookmark a page every time there is a chance you will be proved right?
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Do you bookmark a page every time there is a chance you will be proved right?
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Do you bookmark a page every time there is a chance you will be proved right?
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It doesn't happen very often, let me have my moment in the sun.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It doesn't happen very often, let me have my moment in the sun.
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| Heard from a pretty reliable source over the weekend that we are looking at two players, one from oz and one from super league. He seemed to know who but wouldn't divulge who. He did say it wasn't Graham though.
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| Quote ="grovelane"Heard from a pretty reliable source over the weekend that we are looking at two players, one from oz and one from super league. He seemed to know who but wouldn't divulge who. He did say it wasn't Graham though.'"
Our head office is in Leeds and the Ryan Bailey rumour just won't go away, don't know what to make of it????
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| The Daily Star today says McGuire is after one overseas player for next season but it won't be Billy Slater because he's contracted for 3 more seasons at Melbourne...............................there was me thinking he was in the bag
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"The Daily Star today says McGuire is after one overseas player for next season but it won't be Billy Slater because he's contracted for 3 more seasons at Melbourne...............................there was me thinking he was in the bag
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DAMN IT !!!
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"DAMN IT !!!
well i guess we'll just make do with Inglis then
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I'd love for Melbourne to have to make room under the Salary cap and let somebody like Blair or Lima leave.
One of those would be perfect especially Blair.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I'd love for Melbourne to have to make room under the Salary cap and let somebody like Blair or Lima leave.
One of those would be perfect especially Blair.'"
I thought they were letting a few players go. Dallas Johnson is more than likely on his way out. What about the Eels? They've got to make space and a few players will move on.
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| On here there's often suggestions we need a playmaker half alongside Sam, Cooper Cronk anyone?
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| Quote ="Catalancs"I thought they were letting a few players go. Dallas Johnson is more than likely on his way out. What about the Eels? They've got to make space and a few players will move on.'"
Fine we will settle for Hayne
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| Quote ="Catalancs"I thought they were letting a few players go. Dallas Johnson is more than likely on his way out. What about the Eels? They've got to make space and a few players will move on.'"
Dallas Johnson rumoured to be on his way to Catalans.
Shame we're well covered for the backrow unless McGuire would rather have him then Bailey.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"On here there's often suggestions we need a playmaker half alongside Sam, Cooper Cronk anyone?'"
Would be perfect for wigan
Him and Tomkins would be devastating IMO
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| Example Nº 243 of how sarcasm doesn't work on the internet:
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I'd love for Melbourne to have to make room under the Salary cap and let somebody like Blair or Lima leave.
One of those would be perfect especially Blair.'"
Lima said after the GF he didnt know were his future lied because of the salary cap. so maybe
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"Lima said after the GF he didnt know were his future lied because of the salary cap. so maybe'"
Thats interesting.
I'd rather have Blair but Lima would be a good addition for a couple of years.
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| Quote ="jjb10"Our head office is in Leeds and the Ryan Bailey rumour just won't go away, don't know what to make of it????
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We did mention Bailey but he wouldn't let on. My source is a current player, who said Bailey was sh/te anyway and wouldn't fit in at wigan.
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| Quote ="jjb10"Our head office is in Leeds and the Ryan Bailey rumour just won't go away, don't know what to make of it????
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My suggestion would be press the lever to 'flush'.
I've now decided that I'd be totally stunned if Wigan signed Ryan Bailey, given that he's both crap and a cardboard tank.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"On here there's often suggestions we need a playmaker half alongside Sam, Cooper Cronk anyone?'"
Cronk is a quality player and proof of how strong the Aussies are. He would walk into the GB/England 7 shirt and is 2nd if not 3rd choice for the Aussies.
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