Make sure you explain to your own fans on your site?

Ahhh the old tinfoil hat argument. Good one.

Just every other walk of life you're asked to explain yourself & ALL the evidence is reviewed before a charge is made. Not, we've got some stuff that paints the picture we want and we'll not bother with any other due diligence on this one.

Great process, but nope it's me and my tinfoil hat.

Not exactly
The time between the charge and the trial is when evidence is gathered and the TRIAL is where the evidence is supplied.

They had enough evidence to charge him, he's then supplied the evidence that has satisfied them he isn't guilty

I'm not totally against your current stance on refs, but currently your masking your valid points with rants against refs/officials/rfl at every opportunity imo

Whether you agree with the process or not, it is what it is, and they've followed it.
They haven't backed down, they haven't been called out for their BS as you put it.
Theyve just followed the process

Got it in one. Rarely do you see someone regularly talk so confidently about something they understand so little about.

Not dragging this on, but I have no doubt they've followed the process. It's just the process is a rigged game imo. One that leans towards protecting their own. That's the heart of all my arguments when if comes to them.

Before you are charged, you at least are interviewed and asked to give a statement. Ironically, in this situation that could have solved this whole issue days ago i.e if they'd just asked JB for a statement. If they'd have done that then you'd have hope they'd have found the same as the tribunal. That in turn let's us focus on the match etc.

As a side note, we've established that the ref got it wrong on the night. The lack of an apology speaks volumes about that organisation imo. Use Isa as an example of owning your actions, he's publicly apologised for not getting it right. Will Kendall do the same?

I don't know, we do have to listen to your opinions on a number of rugby related issues.

You not gonna say anything about your boys getting it wrong and sending JB to the bin? Funny how earlier in the season you'd be happy to slate the performance of Hanley, but stay quiet when your a ref has a shocker.

Isa should have had a red, dead wrong and the appointments reflect that (presume you haven't looked because it doesn't suit your agenda to note that officials are regularly dropped based on performance). There's three officials who should have picked that forearm up. All pay for it this week because of one moment in one game. It's the equivalent of Hanley getting dropped the first time one of his errors cost us points (but as we know it actually generally took weeks of staying at the top of the league for 'errors made' for Hanley to be dropped, I digress).

Hard to know on the Bateman one, we don't have the facts and there may well be little/no evidence to go off, especially as my understanding is that his defence was about who the abuse was directed towards rather than whether it was said at all.

One of many things you don't seem to grasp is that it's not just all 'the RFL'. The on field officials and the disciplinary panel are totally separate. Different people, don't meet or train together or anything like that. In fact you could make a strong argument that they aren't aligned because of this. We don't know who was right, and the outcome doesn't necessarily mean the parties disagree. He may well have said something that was worth a sin bin, but wasn't worth a ban on top of that.

This is an interesting one for you to square up. When you haven't been encouraging people to assault referees, you have banged on about how they can't possibly make decisions because they haven't played at a high level. Here you have an ex-academy player ref, one of the touch judges previously playing at a decent level, and the disciplinary panel made up of ex-SL players. How can they possibly be wrong?

I'd say let's not look a gift horse in the mouth there.

Shorrocks at 9 again, Field starts at 1, Bullock dropped from 17

I guess we should have a comp: guess how many minutes Bourouh plays.



WTAF with Bullock?

I’m not sure Harry Smith could look less interested…in 8 minutes he’s left the opportunity to challenge a high kick (actually ran past the ball) give a hospital pass in own 20, not even tried to catch an intercept, and let an (albeit poor) pass go on the floor.

Put simply…he looks like he can’t be d.

Well
As an opinion thats rubbish

As.fact half of it is untrue

But carry on
If we get another no7 we will be miles better is what you mean, not that our coach is clueless

There's no depth or shape in our attack - just a straight static line. Trying hard but just no cutting edge.

Another game where we haven't scored in the first 20 minutes.

I’m far from a Smith basher, and have no point hinted at him being replaced (not as long as I’ve posted on here).

Coaching is miles off, and I agree that this is by far our biggest issue.

But…as pished off as he mite be, and not have options etc etc, there’s a niggle there for me that he looks something between disinterested & like a rabbit in the headlights. I actually rate him, but it’s been a good few games now.

No surprise its 0-0 is it - awful attack from both sides.

I’m sick to death of our nothing grubbers through in attack. I’m not sure what’s easier to defend, those, or Hastings as a 1 man attack. I understand trying to get repeat sets & pressure building, but we never back up with a try by going through hands. I hated when Wire used to score loads off Briers doing it, I don’t enjoy seeing it from us much more.

I cant bag Smith until i have seen him under another coach because there is obviously something there. The same way i won't bag Bateman and French (before his injury) etc because we know these men have talent. I can't believe i want my team to lose (because i do) just to quicken up the process of Lam disappearing.None of our players have been on it this season. Even Farrell has been quiet.

This game is bloody rubbish. Drive, drive drive, knock on, drive.

Your going g to have to explain the 6 again and the missed forward pass

But either way were absolutely awful

Losing to a team who have played with 12 men for 20 mins and have missed 7 tackles. Our games this season will be shown on DAVE in years to come.

I thought the Tetevano high shot on Bateman was naughty…how there was no action for that, then the bin for a nothing one on Faz is beyond me. The one on Bateman was deliberate when he (Bateman) couldn’t do anything to defend himself.

Can’t see where the points are going to come from! Better than Friday but yet another scoreless half.

Have we really not scored a single try for 3 hours?! That must be some kind of record and the clocks still running.