Yes I remember that but that doesnt prove the draw was fixed it shows the RFL are a bunch of amateurs.

Today was the correct way to do the draw.

It's all fixed! My source at the RFL has told me who's won it this already.

Correct. We (as a sport) set ourselves up for these accusations by brain fart ideas. Its a scary thought that the people who went along with recording a draw and playing it later as live, actually run our sport.

I see Leeds have a home draw again.

Disapointed we're not goint to have an away trip to a national league club and go somewhere different this year but that draw is going to make for some interesting quarter finals;

Id expect a semi final line up something like the following;

Huddersfield or Catalan Dragons
Warrington
Leeds
St Helens
Castleford
Wigan
Hull
Hull KR

It'll mean guarenteed big games for the quarters and semis whatever balls they draw out.

Can't believe bradford v wigan is on the box. Having seen bradford the last couple of weeks it will be embarrassingly easy for wigan. Salford/hkr, or even widnes/hull would be closer contests. In fact, saints/fev will be a better game.

Please be Wigan!!!

I know who is going to win, but I'm not telling.

If your honest Wire have won 2 challenge cups on the back of winning mainly easy ties - The only challenging fixtures in the two years you have had is huddersfield away, leeds in one final, and us one semi- add to that, in the only challenging fixtures you've had, all those teams were distinctly underpar and never played to their usual level - Leeds performance last year in the final was their worst all year, as was huddersfield away, and we beat ourselves in the semi two years ago.

Wire have not yet had a challenging game in their cup run.

Briers throws a pass out in the last minute and Charnley intercepts to go the length of the field to win the match

Quick somebody tell Andy his account has been hacked by Rogues.





I'd take that.

I see what you did there.

He always was sh#t at magic that lad. If Harry Potter would've been involved it would have been :

Wire v stains
Hudds v Leeds (Leeds away)
Wigan v swinton

Send him back to hogwarts, the dosey t***.

To be fair to warrington though, they can only beat what was put in front of them.

as for tough draws, If I remember correctly, saints' route to cardiff in '04 was..
Bradford (treble/world champions at the time)
Leeds
Hull FC
Huddersfield
Wigan

Think it Was

Bradford
Leeds
Warrington
Hull?
Wigan

Took some doing that, even though we were cheated in the Final!

Come on now, last year you had a fairly easy route to the Final. Granted, Huddersfield away was a mightily impressive win. But Featherstone are a NL team, Bradford were pathetic last year, and Catalans were bottom of the league when you played them.

Similarly, in the path to the QF in 2009 I'm fairly confident Tony Smith would have got over the line against the opposition you played early on.

You thought wrong



It was Wigan who beat Warrington in the semi final that year. Saints beat Hudds in the other semi.

I think it was - and was a deserved challenge cup, even if you did get the fortuitous decisions in the final



The only other team who had such a difficult run recently, was Hull in 2005 - If I remember rightly they beat the top 4 teams to win the CC that year.

You did make up for the tough run though winning the 07/08 challenge cups without beating anyone of note though.

In 2009 warrington beat 2 out of the top 4 and yourselves. Okay, so we did well avoiding saints and leeds that year. In 2010 we played 1 championship side (arguably the best) and 4 super league sides which included a 60-6 mullering against a top huddersfield side away from home and a destruction of the champions in the final. I'm sure if we had beaten saints in last years final people would be saying that we had it easy because we never played leeds.

Fair enough, ive slept since then!

I'm not sure that is what people are saying to be fair. I dont think anybody would doubt that winning the CC is a great achievement, and you are obviously going to have to beat at least a couple of top sides on the way. My problem has been people on here making out that winning the CC is as much of an achievement as winning the league/GF is, because clearly due to the formats of the competitions, it isn't.

anyway back to the draw fixing..

RFL Official: [i"Right Adam you only pick the Warm Balls. OK"[/i

Adam Fogerty: [i"yeah warm Balls got it"[/i

Claire Balding: [i"and we can go live to the Challenge cup draw Adam fogerty is about to draw the first Home side... O Jesus He's got his scrotum out ...Oh how embarrasing he's drawn Two balls out at once. Brian What do you make of that?"[/i

Brian Noble:[i" home games for Wigan and Saints, just waiting for the Harry potter Lad to get his nuts out of the ice bucket and we can find out the away teams".[/i


very similar to How Maurice Lyndsay dreamt it anyway

What counts as a hard draw?

Obviously not Wigan away because Warrington have won the last two times we've been there and also the last time we played on a neutral ground?

So who is a hard team worthy of beating? I can only presume Wigan fans are referring to the mighty red vee of Saints?

your right, getting wigan in the semi's last year peice of p!ss