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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Only time will tell, players like Briers and Morley will be hard to replace!
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Briers will be impossible to replace the guy is just so unique, there are great half backs but Briers is a complete maverick and unreadable. Forget if you hate him or not the guy is a talent and i'll be gutted when he finishes.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Are both King and Monaghan off contract this season? Both are 29 according to Wiki so could possibly carry on at Wire for another 2 years possibly?
Wire will have to be very careful however if they sign Hodgson on a two year deal as if say Monaghan and King sign another 2 years they could theoretically have King, Monaghan and Hodgson all coming off contract at the same time. Add Morley & Briers into the equation of not having long left it could potentially be all their top big players leaving at the same time.
Not a dig at Wire there just looking at ages and deals and seeing potential problems that’s all.
I’d be very surprised if they don’t try to lower the age of their squad this off season much in the same way they did with the Atkins and Myler signings.'"
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"Wasn't the same said about Morley, no one was prepared to give him a long contract except Wire. Times are changing people play just that little bit longer than they used too, sometimes people need a little faith but only time will tell i suppose ?'"
Morleys a bit different in respect that he's a prop and not a fullback though, but yeah I get what your saying. All i'm meaning is that Hudds would allow such a key key player for them to go because of his age.
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| Quote ="inside_man"Morleys a bit different in respect that he's a prop and not a fullback though, but yeah I get what your saying. All i'm meaning is that Hudds would allow such a key key player for them to go because of his age.'"
You never know they might have plans for a Melbourne player
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| Bl00dy Hell Mathers!
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"I don't see why, if a young player is good enough he's old enough, the same goes for the older guys in that if they are fit enough they are good enough.
We have some good youngsters coming through, Cooper for instance is a strong tough runner, great prospect.
Moz, just seems tireless/ageless we have a good mix.'"
I think the point being made is not whether they're good enough or not (Hodgeson most certainly is!) but that they are more suseptible to injuries. Look at Longy over at Hull. Out for 6 games already this season for various reasons and surely lending some credence to Saints decision that he wasn't worth a longer deal. Hodgeson too has already spent time on the sidelines this season. It's fine if you have good cover (is your young full back ready for SL for example?) but if not then it becomes more risky to give longer deals to older players. That's not to say all older players suffer the same, of course, but as a rule of thumb it's not far off the mark.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"I think the point being made is not whether they're good enough or not (Hodgeson most certainly is!) but that they are more suseptible to injuries. Look at Longy over at Hull. Out for 6 games already this season for various reasons and surely lending some credence to Saints decision that he wasn't worth a longer deal. Hodgeson too has already spent time on the sidelines this season. It's fine if you have good cover (is your young full back ready for SL for example?) but if not then it becomes more risky to give longer deals to older players. That's not to say all older players suffer the same, of course, but as a rule of thumb it's not far off the mark.'"
No one doubts that it's a gamble but if you are going to gamble then the current MOS is, imo worth a try.
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| Quote ="Newton-Le-willows-Warrior"wire are just biding time till jordan burke breaks through by the looks of things, which will probably be in a year or 2. Hes an excellent player and very solid.
So on the basis of that hodgson is more than an astute signing for them.
However, If I was a wire fan I would be slightly worried at the amount of over 30's in their side.'"
More likely to be Rhys Evans unless he stays as a centre.
If the deal does happen and it is just all rumour the media are getting it off here then Hodgson will take Hicks place on the quota 30 something for a 30 something, the number of over 30s doesn't bother me at all we will have a good mix abit like Smiths Leeds teams.
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| Currently on a hat-trick today!
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| He got a hat-trick in the first half.
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| typical BBC, he got 2 tries, the other was Richie Myler.
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| I thought there was a salary cap?
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| Quote ="P-J"I thought there was a salary cap?'"
my thoughts exactly, how can they afford to sign him (who will be on big money) as well as keep players like Myler, Morley, King etc (who will also be on massive amounts) maybe they'll do a Melbourne and have all their league titles take.... oh wait
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| Hicks is going
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| Quote ="FekaTheBeast"my thoughts exactly, how can they afford to sign him (who will be on big money) as well as keep players like Myler, Morley, King etc (who will also be on massive amounts) maybe they'll do a Melbourne and have all their league titles take.... oh wait'"
You should know given how you know what players are earning
Its really simple really.
If its true
Hicks and Mathers out
Hodgson in
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| Quote ="Wire_85"
Its really simple really.
Brown envelopes.
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| Quote ="FekaTheBeast"my thoughts exactly, how can they afford to sign him (who will be on big money) as well as keep players like Myler, Morley, King etc (who will also be on massive amounts) maybe they'll do a Melbourne and have all their league titles take.... oh wait'"
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"No one doubts that it's a gamble but if you are going to gamble then the current MOS is, imo worth a try.'"
I agree. If it works out it could turn out to be the missing part of the puzzle for Wire. As you say, a bit of a gamble though. For the money he will presumably be on I'm sure a younger player of equal ability would be available from Aus. It's not as though he's non-quota. Over the course of a 2 year deal (if that's what happens) it could certainly prove to be a mixed bag.
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| good signing improvement on mathers( shame but not upto standard) and be good for rhys williams coming through
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| I hope Huddersfield put faith in Cudjo as a replacement, given game time at 1 I think he could be an International class player in a position that causes us some problems.
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| Quote ="jonh"I hope Huddersfield put faith in Cudjo as a replacement, given game time at 1 I think he could be an International class player in a position that causes us some problems.'"
I imagine that's why there letting him go isn't it? Move him to fullback, Brough replaces him taking the conversions, bring in a new winger on a lot less money than Hodgson would have wanted.
Plus with the quota coming down I imagine it's seen as an even greater risk as you want your quota players to be playing as much as possible. At his age I can't see him getting at most 3/4's of a season in in 2 years time.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Did a Wigan fan just accuse us of cheating in regards the salary cap?
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Remember we've never actually "Broken" the cap we've gone against the "spirit of it".
We are just wondering how it would be possible for Wire to get Hodgson under the cap considering the big earners you already have. I mean think about this these are just my guesses:
Morley - Probably about 150k
King - 200-300k maybe (didn't he reject 200k from us to go to Wire?)
Andersons - 80-100k each easy
Carvell - 80-100k maybe more
Myler - Over 100k as he rejected a "six figure sum from Salford"
Thats not far from a million by itself. Add to this I know a lad who plays for Wire who tells me what he's on and what some of the other young players are on and I dont see how it will be possible even with the removal of Mathers to get Hodgson under the cap unless you get him on a bargain contract which is unlikely as the extension he's rejected will of been on his current deal which will be well in excess of 100k probably closer to 200k.
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