Leeds at home end of last season from a loose ball he went 90 yards going away from chasing defenders.

Bradford play offs from a loose ball/interception - 90 yards again going away from defenders!

Countless occasions when he covered from right wing to catch breaks made down our left centre.

Notice both weren't from good passes from centres which he struggled to get in his 3 seasons at Wigan.

His main problem was that he was gash and his heart wasnt in it. If he had Gidley or Carmont next to him he still wouldn't have been interested.

Perhaps a little harsh, but neither was he the two-legged phenomenon that Dave O seems to think he was. I'd sooner have Pat Richards any day.

I'd stick to fishing in Grimsby mate

End of the day in a wigan shirt 58 sl games 17 tries, in a FC shirt 19g 6 tries. End point = gash.

He never touched the f*cking ball unless he picked it up from dummy half. He played outside Phil Bailey and Darryl Goulding FFS. One can't pass and the other refuses to.

Oh so the question you asked is not the answer you wanted!

32 tries in 72 games for Wigan = Try every 0.44444

Roberts has scored 12 in 32 = Try every 0.375 - Is he Gash as Well?????? (That's not a question for DaveO or anyone else

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Richards in his 1st 2 x seasons scored 28 in 58 = Try every 0.48 Yet at the end of 2007 he was being voted as "Superman!".

I for one think Roberts is a Far better All round Winger and I am glad we did the swap.

But to criticise Calderwood for his strike rat or for not being quick enough or not b eing interested is just ludicrous!

If you want to say he's Gash then fair enough your entitiled to your opinion but to make up "Facts" to try and prove your point! Your going to have to come up with some better ones!

And just where have I been making up facts

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The stats come from the SL site itself not wikipedea (and I know you've got them for C&W)icon_wink.gif . And I think your blinded by your love of our former no2 to see that in fact he was poor at his time here. He let countless tries against us when stopped and let opposing winger ground the ball. I remeber him having one good half against Bradford in the PO and a good game against Leeds the following year, O' yeah and against PIA when Bailey (who can't pass) gave him a field day at least 2 where over the line and all he had to do was drop with the ball.
Also as I stated earlier a lot of the FC fans dont rate him either, so we are all wrong? Or perhaps you think I am making that up as well?

I do have a lot of time on my hands fishing and all to make up stuff.

Roberts & Richards are infinately better than Calderwood.

Him not getting a pass is a falacy, how many tries have we scored wide this year?

Richards & Roberts have heart/quality. Calderwood doesnt.

Kevin Penny 39 games, 26 tries. 39-26 i like those 4 numbers

He's slowed down a bit now, but he was like off a shovel at Leeds

Just watched the game and couldnt put it better I HATE THE GUY!!!!!!!!

Clarke was hugely biased in his commentary yesterday but he needed to be to counteract the ridiculous anti-Wigan nonsense from Hemmings.

A word to all those Noble defenders, Eddie thinks we should keep him; that's almost reason enough in itself to part company with BN!

If Eddie said that last night, then he is being - as usual - a mischief-making, shtt-stirring Warrington barsteward. The deal re. Noble was sorted ages ago, and he knows that perfectly well.

He didn't expressly say we should keep him... he did though question in what sounded like a surprised tone why when he had such a good play-off record we would part company with BN, the implication being Wigan would be foolish to do so...

rubbish, he was voted supporters player of the year.

Calderwood is faster than some people think. He caught Slater in the World Cup while jogging.

There are so many things incorrect here I don't know where to start!

No blind love for Calderwood, he was one of our 2 x best wingers in his time at the club and had very very few Bad Games.

You said he wasn't quick, asked for eveidence & I gave you some examples! He's still one of the quickest and given space not many would catch him.
That's not me saying he's one of the Best, I never said that, but again you didn't check what I'd put beofre saying I was a calderwood Lover!

Plus I see the Hull FC Fans voted him supporters player of the Year!
Not bad for soemone who "Many" Hull FC fans don't rate!

PS

So Yes I do think your Making it up!

PPS

He was the Best England Winger at the World Cup & Made Gardner look like the Donkey he is! And Yet Gardner has a WCC, a SL Title & 3 CC to his name so it shows what playing in a good team can do!

Having been at the game i didnt hear p clarke commentry but why sdhouldnt hear be a little biased he did play for us very well and a good chap off the field with the charity work he does.

hahahaha. i wonder why that is

You want to get out more!

Seriously this thing about Phil Clarke is really annoying!

He tipped Hull KR before the game.

The reason he talks about Wigan a little more than other teams is because he knows more about them than any other team! He has friends in Wigan and will know about all the young prospects, who is good and who isnt.

No one has commented on the Leeds-Saints creamathon every other week.

Because other fans still has a chip on their shoulder about Wigan and always will.

This is true.

Barries Mac still wears his Leeds colours on his sleeve. He will always pick them and roots for them when they are on the Telly. he talks about the leeds youngsters with real passion and IMO the coverage is better of for it.

When you used to watch the Footy show, you knew that the presenters were mostly ex-players and it added to the spice of the programme with all the banter.