because he is Cack

I would take him over Riddell anyday.

id second that ! netwon is a better hooker than riddell,

He's not retiring. Whether he's staying at Bradford is another matter. Personally, I hope he does.

When you have such a stupid sig as saying Ellis is overrated then no one is gonna take you serious.

Well, there is a 'rumour' Riddell is homeward bound at the end of the season..........2+2 = ???????, still plenty life in Terry !!!!

2+2+McIllorum+Leuleui = ???

He turns 31 during the next off season.

Mc Illorum + Leuleui + Riddell = 3 (for 1 place)

Mc Illorum + Leuleui + Newton = still 3 (for 1 place), only 1 name has changed, Tommy is still only interchanging at 7 & 9, depending on a new signing at 6 or 7, plenty of options in a key position.

Newton hasn't looked the same player whilst at Bradford as he did here but he's still a fine player.

He's one of my favourite alltime Wigan players simply because he cared a great deal about this club and loved playing here. He always gave his all which sometimes spilled over.

I think it's been noticable whilst at Bradford that he just doesn't seem as aggresive anymore...........he just doesn't care as much.

If Riddell did want to go home and there wasn't a decent halfback available allowing us to move Leuluai to 9 i'd have Newton for at least a season.

Newtons got the knees of a 40 year old.

Stay well clear.

Dont tell me, tell IL !!!!!!!!!

Well if Stanley Gene can do it...

Stanley is in his mid forties and still going strong

He has a star tattoo around his left knee, how many forty year olds have that?

Often it seems that way, but when you look at him he's one of the few who puts the effort in and can be often found shouting orders about and getting pretty angry when we are recieving a whooping. He still has the heart imo but not quite as much ability to back it up. He's still a joy to watch at times.

And he was 5 times the player in a Wigan Shirt !

I think when people watched him in the past walloping people and taking people out off the ball how classy a player with ball in hand he actually was. He distributes well and takes great options.

A fine player.

Why? does every single RL fan in the world think he is god, grow up, he were genk, he's not even fit to lace Bett's boots

Was a bully,he's too old now! the young lads now are giving it back to him,has always been a good player but he's getting his comuppance now!!

We all have odd collecting habits... will he hand them back?

Lol so everyone that isn't as good as Betts has to be rubbish then!!

Ellis is one of the best 2nd rows in the world easy and I really wonder what games you are watching if you can’t see that

lol, you really believe that?, he where good at Wakey but thent again they where poor, he often went missing at Leeds and from what i've seen he ain't going to well down under, he will be back halfway through next season when they tire of him. Hock is 3 times the player that dot to dot face is

He often went missing at Leeds



They had 2 players that carried their whole team at one point and they were Ellis and Peacock.........they now have just the one in Peacock and he doesn't look quite the force of a year or 2 ago.

No trophies for Leeds this year methinks.

Riddell has the gut of a 60 year old, and that didn't stop us.