We lease the ground from him.



That's no reason for him to give us money.

Why would he be going to you for nothing at the end of the season?

I know most announcements seem to be on Tuesdays, but I've got a strong suspicion that we'll know about [ithis[/i one on Wednesday....

Just been on GMR that we're in talks with Warrington about swapping Gleeson for Mathers and Goulding.

You are Joe King and i claim my £5 do you think we are all being made a FOOL of.



If so the rumors were started a little early like last Wednesday though April fool jokes only started at Midnight tonight and ran till lunch time tomorrow.

The transfer will break down due to Wigan not wanting to pay the requested transfer fee on top of the players.



Whether IL is in the right or not, it'll be a money thing.

And as the article says we need to offload the two players to get Gleeson under the salary cap. We were supposed to only have £20K left under it.



Dave

would those two create enough space, after all, as we keep getting told on our board, gleeson's on nearly 150-200k or higher.

I can't imagine Goulding being on a fair wedge but I bet Phelps is.

I'm not sure that's the case. He said at the Fans Forum that they had offered cash for a player but the club wanted £70K and he thought it was too much so no deal was struck. I assumed that was for Richard Moore, in which case £70K is too much.



I get the impression he'll part with the cash but not at extortionate fees.



The major stumbling block is getting people off our cap if we have to pay cash.

If you look at it logically

Tony Smith wants cover at full back thats why he wants Mathers

Monaghan wants to leave Wire so the one i was told about with Smith looks like that could be the one.

Maybe a small amount of cash as well frees up cap space for us and moves a quota spot out leaves us room for another oversea player. Was told Goulding wants out but from what i have heard he is going to a Yorkshire club but do not know which

Gleeson simply is not good enough, whats he done at warrington or for great britain/england recently? worst signing ever! if it comes off

Although i am not totally over the moon about the signing i still think it is a good one.



On the down side he does have bagage that is the major issue for me, on the plus side he can be a wonderful attacking centre one of the best in the UK and he is British, i think this is critical. In real terms we are not going to get a better British centre, which will enable us to have 1 more precious quota space available to use next year in an area we are more in need of.



At the moment touch wood off our current quota of overseas players we will be losing touch wood, Smith, Phelps Bailey maybe only needing to bring 1 in if we recruit Gleeson which can only be a positive move for the club in my opinion.

???

he is

u tell me one thing he has done good?

hes an idiot on the field and off it, we have enough of those at the club, he isnt the fastest, he is greedy, his defence is suspect, and he is a warrington cast off, if he was that good he would be pulling warrington out of the mire, but is he, NO!, he is crap, wouldnt have him any where near a wigan shirt, id sooner us go for keith senior one of the oldest in the world or put one of the other young kids in than this waste of space. I really dont see why we need another back and again we are signing someone who is living on rep and not on form. we have way too many backs to be even thinking about signing this guy, just another huge waste of money for me,

Quote ="truewiganer"Gleeson simply is not good enough, whats he done at warrington or for great britain/england recently? worst signing ever! if it comes off'" In a side that underperformed more than us he comes out about even with Carmont. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 08&hp2=153

Quote ="truewiganer"Gleeson simply is not good enough, whats he done at warrington or for great britain/england recently? worst signing ever! if it comes off'" In a side that underperformed more than us he comes out about even with Carmont. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 08&hp2=153

I think he was one of the only England players to come away with any credit in the World Cup, and if the deal goes through it looks like we will be losing 2 backs.

Whilst I would be happy to get a player of Gleesons ability in the side, I can't help thinking that we are looking at the wrong position. Surely we need to be looking at a prop forward first and foremost.

just seems like a massive waste of money for me, goulding is a young wigan trained kid, for me hes looking good, mathers is crap let him go, and phelps if we used him right would be good but just getting rid of players and signing someone isnt going to mask the fact we have a crap coach and he cant get the best out of our players, we will sign this lad who alot of you guys see at the saviour, and he will be usless not only for his own lack of ability and wanting to work hard but for the fact that noble is crap with tactics, we will get cut appart down the wing if gleeson and roberts are on the same wing, not a good signing at all, club going in wrong direction if we are signing him, let him bugger off to aus and keep the faith in the kids, like thornley and farrell etc dont go signing half harted crap players cos they are british, we got our own trained british kids

Gleeson is on 150K



Mathers and Goulding are on around 60K each which I think is the average rugby league wage.



120k plus the 30K we have left over means we can fit him in.

oh yeah, just another part of a rant,

its just seems like the club is trying to paper over the cracks, and sign a british player because thats what the rugby world want us to, and a new player because its what the fans want, jsut to try and keep the fans interested. i want a new coach first, i think we got the players to push on, i dont think its the players fault, but the coach is what me need to change

How anyone can question Gleeson's ability is beyond me.

I agree. As has already been said in this thread, he's one of only a handful of English players who came away from the world cup with any credit.

We badly need a right centre and a Prop, we may not be able to sign a Prop of the right quality at the moment, we have no quota space to sign one or any other position for that matter from overseas.



If we sign Gleeson we may very well kill 2 birds with one stone if it means we lose 1 of either Phelps or Smith.



We improve our position in the centres considerably and also open a quota spot should a Prop become available from the NRL mid season, it seems like very good business to me if i am honest.

We are rumored to be signing. As the moment Goulding going in the other direction got mentioned we get the usual hes young player, homegrown.



Goulding is average at best. He will never play for England or GB. Gleeson is a lot better than him. Its the fact that a homegrown player going in the other direcction that is the problem.



Tomkins and Ainscough have shown more in a few games than Goulding has in 2 seasons.