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| Quote ="NickyKiss"It’s a sign of just how poor a signing Mago has been that we’d even debate putting a 19 year old prop in ahead of him, at the same time as potentially having a 20 year old hooker and a 19 year old second rower. We need to buck the trend of the past 10-15 years and sign better props in the next off season.'"
Well, yes, this. I think Hill is well worth persisting with, but we need better props. Where were we when Paasi, say, became available? And watching Saints today, it did strike me, what if we had two back-rowers like Sironen and Batchelor?
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| In attach we're really missing a forward with a passing game. I thought Shorrocks would fill that role but haven't really seen it .
Our pivots are far to easily picked out by an aggressive defence and having a ball playing forward can expose the gaps a rushing defender can make. Our offloading has dropped off a cliff too, when was the last time French or Field were put into a gap up the middle of the field.
We have far too little variety in attack, hence the reason we seem to score the majority of our tries out wide. So easy to ready with an aggressive discipline defence.
A big 2nd rower straightening up the line or some smart passing up the middle with players on the shoulder would make a big difference.
Problem is we are too similar in all our pack, all our props are of the 'grind' variety, Mago who we thought was the point of difference has become the polar opposite of an impact player. Almost 'slow motion grind' , 2nd rows and Loose are small, no impact players. I think we need Nsemba in there and we need to trust him to do a job and play to his strengths, something I feel Peet finds it hard to do with the younger players. Why save Hill's 2nd stint until 5 mins from the end last week - absolutely ;pointless, same with Nsemba's early games coming on for the last 5 minutes.
We need some variety to take the pressure off everything coming through Smith, French's no look passes and Field.
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| The bench we’ve named is as weak as I’ve seen. Hopefully we’ll be out of sight before any interchanges
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| Absolute prat
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| Quote ="bedfordwarrior"Absolute prat
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You'll probably go on to win after that but really what was the need. Absolute brain fart to even go out of his way to push Ratchford to begin with let alone butt him twice.
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| I think that kind of behaviour should see us send Ellis home as well as Mago. Not the first time he’s been a melon.
Well done to the pack stepping up though. It’s a limited game plan that we’ve needed to do after the last few games.
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| Yeah giving it a really good go here a man down. Kept the ball, made metres, kicked it into the right areas for the turnover and then pinned them down with defence. Shame couldn't nick another try with those couple of breaks we had, but ahh well.
Wire have been comedy bad in the first half though it has to be said, and we're obviously going to have to dig very deep the longer it goes and still a huge mountain to scale. But fingers crossed.
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| Those two 7-tackle sets have killed us. We were doing so well too. Cust has changed the game in a negative way since he’s come on. O’Neill had a great stint.
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| Quote ="DannyT"I think that kind of behaviour should see us send Ellis home as well as Mago. Not the first time he’s been a melon.
Well done to the pack stepping up though. It’s a limited game plan that we’ve needed to do after the last few games.'"
Send Cust with them too . The worlds most obvious dummy that never works just cost us a tackle on their line , turns the ball over and he gives a pen away that marches Warrington upfield to score . Send all three home I say
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| Harvard has been outstanding !
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| How many abject minutes for Cust there?
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| Ethan Havard won us that game. What an effort. One of the best front row performances any of our props have produced for years and years.
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| Outstanding from Havard, thought Hill looked great in his spell as well.
Hopefully my heart rate returns to normal before the end of my shift.
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| Goal kicking won us the game? I thought goal kicking hardly ever decides games
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| What an effort.
Agree with the above, Havard was absolutely fookin' outstanding.
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| Wire fans must be spewing after watching that. To win that game we needed 100% from every man and we got it, we also needed Wire to underperform and we got that. Well done lads!
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| A fantastic win , fully deserved !!
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| Smiths kicking cost us that game
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| Absolutely fantastic stuff. I’d have been more than satisfied with the effort even had we lost. Special praise for a super human effort from Havard, some unbelievable defensive steel from French and for Harry Smith’s ability to bounce back with his goal kicking and general performance.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Smiths kicking cost us that game'"
Only a matter of time, was bound to happen in a big game
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| Very enjoyable in a nerve shredding kind of way, Havard and Smith take a bow lads
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| Quote ="DannyT"Ethan Havard won us that game. What an effort. One of the best front row performances any of our props have produced for years and years.'"
Nearly everyone said that after Smith given mom. To be fair to Smith that last kick was some effort.
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| Quote ="stpatricks"Nearly everyone said that after Smith given mom. To be fair to Smith that last kick was some effort.'"
Pleased Smith has something positive to hold on to, hopefully it’ll help him get over his awful form. I just can’t look past that Havard effort, with 12 men and little support from the rest of fhe front row. It’s a coming of age performance the likes of Adrian Morley. Jamie Peacock and Stuart Fielden in their prime were able to show.
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| Quote ="DannyT"Pleased Smith has something positive to hold on to, hopefully it’ll help him get over his awful form. I just can’t look past that Havard effort, with 12 men and little support from the rest of fhe front row. It’s a coming of age performance the likes of Adrian Morley. Jamie Peacock and Stuart Fielden in their prime were able to show.'"
It needs to be the standard he aims for every week now because that’s how good he can be. I always bang on about wanting more from him and it isn’t from a place of criticising, it’s because the lad can be absolutely anything in the game that he wants to be. He can be a superstar if he believes in himself and pushes himself.
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